AS-20 Nord

[Messerschmitt 262]

Did they nerf it or something ?
I cannot get a single kill with them even on a direct it. Some just plash over.

[Arc]

Pretty sure they were nerfed pretty hard a long while ago.

by pretty hard I mean into the floor.

[Tanyami ღ]

In an update a while back they, together with a couple other air-to-ground missiles, have been changed. In specific the amount of explosive mass has been changed, before the whole warhead mass was considered explosive mass, now its the actual amount of expolsives within the warhead

[Messerschmitt 262]

bruh... I shot a ZSU directly and it did nothing. Yikes

[Pec]

With a direct hit they are quite effective. Previously they were extremely overpowered but are now in a more fair place

[Sil.^Fisk]

They are completely useless now. I dont see the point in even bringing them in at all

[Beethoven-此喵非彼喵]

try to use AS 20 in historical air battle. fly up to about 5000m+ above enemy airfield. That is directly aim and kills.
Note: those you kill might report you. cuz it is really a surprise mf kill.

[Messerschmitt 262]

Originally posted by Sil.^:

They are completely useless now. I dont see the point in even bringing them in at all

Yeah noticed them doing absolutely nothing.
Only luck I had with them is by shooting from the top down of tanks by diving but thats not always a great tactic.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by 此喵非彼喵:

try to use AS 20 in historical air battle. fly up to about 5000m+ above enemy airfield. That is directly aim and kills.
Note: those you kill might report you. cuz it is really a surprise mf kill.

I am seeing squads do this in top tier aircraft like the Mig 23MF and even with the Tu-4's and B-29's, just sitting above the airfield and either getting a lock on with their missiles as soon as the enemy leaves the runway or bombing the hell out of the runway to try and kill any enemies refueling/rearming. The nords sound like a good middle ground between those two options.

Originally posted by Messerschmitt 262:

Only luck I had with them is by shooting from the top down of tanks by diving but thats not always a great tactic.

Might try focusing on tanks like the BMP's and other cap rushers that way you will have an easier time with soft targets vs the MBT's which will endlessly eat nords despite having armor so thin you could pen it with your 50 cals (granted I doubt you could pull up if you were close enough to pen, but still, their armor shouldn't be stopping the missile).

[Messerschmitt 262]

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

Originally posted by 此喵非彼喵:

try to use AS 20 in historical air battle. fly up to about 5000m+ above enemy airfield. That is directly aim and kills.
Note: those you kill might report you. cuz it is really a surprise mf kill.

I am seeing squads do this in top tier aircraft like the Mig 23MF and even with the Tu-4's and B-29's, just sitting above the airfield and either getting a lock on with their missiles as soon as the enemy leaves the runway or bombing the hell out of the runway to try and kill any enemies refueling/rearming. The nords sound like a good middle ground between those two options.

Originally posted by Messerschmitt 262:

Only luck I had with them is by shooting from the top down of tanks by diving but thats not always a great tactic.

Might try focusing on tanks like the BMP's and other cap rushers that way you will have an easier time with soft targets vs the MBT's which will endlessly eat nords despite having armor so thin you could pen it with your 50 cals (granted I doubt you could pull up if you were close enough to pen, but still, their armor shouldn't be stopping the missile).

Kind of hard to do when most of them are MBT but I get what you mean.
I took out a T-72 turms after the 3rd missile hit its top but the other 2 just (shattered).

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by Messerschmitt 262:

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

I am seeing squads do this in top tier aircraft like the Mig 23MF and even with the Tu-4's and B-29's, just sitting above the airfield and either getting a lock on with their missiles as soon as the enemy leaves the runway or bombing the hell out of the runway to try and kill any enemies refueling/rearming. The nords sound like a good middle ground between those two options.


Might try focusing on tanks like the BMP's and other cap rushers that way you will have an easier time with soft targets vs the MBT's which will endlessly eat nords despite having armor so thin you could pen it with your 50 cals (granted I doubt you could pull up if you were close enough to pen, but still, their armor shouldn't be stopping the missile).

Kind of hard to do when most of them are MBT but I get what you mean.
I took out a T-72 turms after the 3rd missile hit its top but the other 2 just (shattered).

Russia is the "funnest" nation to fight with rockets and missiles, I am getting close to the tech tree T-72 and T-64, plus I will be grinding out the T-72 moderna so overall I will be making your life very "fun" with my ERA turret armor in about 2 weeks.

[Beethoven-此喵非彼喵]

Originally posted by Messerschmitt 262:

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

I am seeing squads do this in top tier aircraft like the Mig 23MF and even with the Tu-4's and B-29's, just sitting above the airfield and either getting a lock on with their missiles as soon as the enemy leaves the runway or bombing the hell out of the runway to try and kill any enemies refueling/rearming. The nords sound like a good middle ground between those two options.


Might try focusing on tanks like the BMP's and other cap rushers that way you will have an easier time with soft targets vs the MBT's which will endlessly eat nords despite having armor so thin you could pen it with your 50 cals (granted I doubt you could pull up if you were close enough to pen, but still, their armor shouldn't be stopping the missile).

Kind of hard to do when most of them are MBT but I get what you mean.
I took out a T-72 turms after the 3rd missile hit its top but the other 2 just (shattered).

as 20 used to be good, until they reduce more than 50% TNT. too bad.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by 此喵非彼喵:

Originally posted by Messerschmitt 262:

Kind of hard to do when most of them are MBT but I get what you mean.
I took out a T-72 turms after the 3rd missile hit its top but the other 2 just (shattered).

as 20 used to be good, until they reduce more than 50% TNT. too bad.

I remember when the nords would team kill me in my leopard 2 if I was too close to the enemy, they were scary back then, granted that was only like 6 months ago but still, scary missiles.

[Beethoven-此喵非彼喵]

Originally posted by FizzyElf:

Originally posted by 此喵非彼喵:

as 20 used to be good, until they reduce more than 50% TNT. too bad.

I remember when the nords would team kill me in my leopard 2 if I was too close to the enemy, they were scary back then, granted that was only like 6 months ago but still, scary missiles.

yep. it used to be about 60kg TNT, I believe it is only 28kg TNT.

[Sil.^Fisk]

What CAS do we have available to German 9.0 now?
Nords do absolutely nothing. So we can forget about them.
they have really removed any fun for German CAS at 9.0

[jaxjace]

Originally posted by Sil.^:

What CAS do we have available to German 9.0 now?
Nords do absolutely nothing. So we can forget about them.
they have really removed any fun for German CAS at 9.0

There is no 9.0 german cas, we have the bo105 utility helicopter at 9.3 and the Hind at 9.7. we have a few export sabers that can carry 2 2000lb bombs or Hvars at those BRs as well.

We dont get Good CAS again untill 11.0 with the F4F and the SU22, and the F4F is literally just worse in every way than its american equivalent. at 11.3 we finally get something powerful in the form of the Tiger UHT, but as soon as Gaijin decides its time both the US and USSR can mount fire and forget missiles on their helicopters too, its just that we get them now for balance reasons because OUR helicopters have HALF the missiles and carry NO GUNS.