How is the He 177?

[AC137]

In other words, is is worth digging through these worthless Do 217 "upgrades" to get a strat bomber for once? Or should I just grind for the Ho 229?

[kamikazi21358]

It is fairly enjoyable, it’s a big powerful bomber, yet it doesn’t feel as weak as say a B-17 currently because it actually has some considerable speed, engine power (it looks 2 engined, but each prop is powered by 2 engines each), and high dive speed when RTBing.

I don’t use it for grinding, but I heard also it is very good for SL grinding, I’ve seen some pretty high SL game screenshots from it.

Plus it has guided bombs for the fun of it.

[kamikazi21358]

While for the Ho 229, it is also decent, but if it is going to be your first jet, tbh idk if it would be an excellent first jet or a terrible first jet.

It is like a prop mixed with a jet, it has the speed and acceleration of a jet, while it turns like a spitfire, making it a godly dogfighter. That might be the good part, as it might be a good transition vehicle into jets.

But also, it isn’t representative of jet combat. Try to pull the s*** you can do in a Ho 229 in say a Me 262 or a F-86, you’re going to have a really bad game. Plus just getting used to that your jet has wooden wings, probably half your deaths at first will be learning to not turn too hard.

^But if the overall doesn’t matter to you, idk if you have jets or not, as an aircraft the 229 is very interesting. He MK 103s destroy, as they are not only German 3cms with mine shells, it has considerable velocity, although the rage of fire is lower than the Mk 108 (but it does have ammo capacity). The top speed is ok, while the turning capabilities are insane, but you do have to slow down (without airbreaks) if you’re going fast before you can start turning. The 229 is OP against props though because of this, because you can turn with spitfires, yet you’re a jet. It is still made of wood though, it’s a big target when the enemy is facing the top or bottom of your craft (though a pancake of a target from side/rear/front), so getting shot is even worse on the 229 than even most early jets, and it isn’t hard to do it in those situations.

[Silly Pillow]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

It is fairly enjoyable, it’s a big powerful bomber, yet it doesn’t feel as weak as say a B-17 currently because it actually has some considerable speed, engine power (it looks 2 engined, but each prop is powered by 2 engines each), and high dive speed when RTBing.

I don’t use it for grinding, but I heard also it is very good for SL grinding, I’ve seen some pretty high SL game screenshots from it.

Plus it has guided bombs for the fun of it.

I second this except for the grind bit. I used it to grind the jet bomber that comes after (which is btw not worth it 100%)

But yeah, the He 177 is like my fav bomber as it has good defensive armaments for the most part, along with fantastic bomb loads.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Silly Chief (Pillow):

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

It is fairly enjoyable, it’s a big powerful bomber, yet it doesn’t feel as weak as say a B-17 currently because it actually has some considerable speed, engine power (it looks 2 engined, but each prop is powered by 2 engines each), and high dive speed when RTBing.

I don’t use it for grinding, but I heard also it is very good for SL grinding, I’ve seen some pretty high SL game screenshots from it.

Plus it has guided bombs for the fun of it.

I second this except for the grind bit. I used it to grind the jet bomber that comes after (which is btw not worth it 100%)

But yeah, the He 177 is like my fav bomber as it has good defensive armaments for the most part, along with fantastic bomb loads.

I disagree about the Arado 234 part tbh. I heard people use the He 177... I use the Arado 234B. I put a talisman o my 234B, it gets insane RP output, and considerable SL output. Yet it is extremely enjoyable to fly, it flies very well even for a 7.3 or a 7.7, the only reason it’s 6.7 is because of it’s 1500kg bombload (though that is enough for 1 base, or two tanks) and no guns whatsoever. Which without guns is just ‘challenge accepted’ mode, no guns yet I still have 4 air kills in it... (discluding arado akbar mode when that B29 just needs to die).

The rewards from it are excellent, especially with a talisman, and it is a more peaceful way of grinding when you get burnt out from fighters and you need a consistent, reliable, less intense yet still fun way of grinding. The 234B is so much fun, I’ve yet to still play the C version, even though I bought it and everything. If not the He 177 being worth it, which I think it is, just getting the Arado 234 B-2 that’s after it is totally worth it.

[Silly Pillow]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by Silly Chief (Pillow):

I second this except for the grind bit. I used it to grind the jet bomber that comes after (which is btw not worth it 100%)

But yeah, the He 177 is like my fav bomber as it has good defensive armaments for the most part, along with fantastic bomb loads.

I disagree about the Arado 234 part tbh. I heard people use the He 177... I use the Arado 234B. I put a talisman o my 234B, it gets insane RP output, and considerable SL output. Yet it is extremely enjoyable to fly, it flies very well even for a 7.3 or a 7.7, the only reason it’s 6.7 is because of it’s 1500kg bombload (though that is enough for 1 base, or two tanks) and no guns whatsoever. Which without guns is just ‘challenge accepted’ mode, no guns yet I still have 4 air kills in it... (discluding arado akbar mode when that B29 just needs to die).

The rewards from it are excellent, especially with a talisman, and it is a more peaceful way of grinding when you get burnt out from fighters and you need a consistent, reliable, less intense yet still fun way of grinding. The 234B is so much fun, I’ve yet to still play the C version, even though I bought it and everything. If not the He 177 being worth it, which I think it is, just getting the Arado 234 B-2 that’s after it is totally worth it.

My awful experience with it could be mostly due to the insane grind to get decent bomb loads. I currently haven't unlocked all of them (I think I have all but the last one or something along those lines) so I just go for a base, don't get to destroy it completely, then RTB and hope that no prop planes catch up to me and gun me down lol. Though I do agree that the flying part is actually fun with it.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Silly Chief (Pillow):

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

I disagree about the Arado 234 part tbh. I heard people use the He 177... I use the Arado 234B. I put a talisman o my 234B, it gets insane RP output, and considerable SL output. Yet it is extremely enjoyable to fly, it flies very well even for a 7.3 or a 7.7, the only reason it’s 6.7 is because of it’s 1500kg bombload (though that is enough for 1 base, or two tanks) and no guns whatsoever. Which without guns is just ‘challenge accepted’ mode, no guns yet I still have 4 air kills in it... (discluding arado akbar mode when that B29 just needs to die).

The rewards from it are excellent, especially with a talisman, and it is a more peaceful way of grinding when you get burnt out from fighters and you need a consistent, reliable, less intense yet still fun way of grinding. The 234B is so much fun, I’ve yet to still play the C version, even though I bought it and everything. If not the He 177 being worth it, which I think it is, just getting the Arado 234 B-2 that’s after it is totally worth it.

My awful experience with it could be mostly due to the insane grind to get decent bomb loads. I currently haven't unlocked all of them (I think I have all but the last one or something along those lines) so I just go for a base, don't get to destroy it completely, then RTB and hope that no prop planes catch up to me and gun me down lol. Though I do agree that the flying part is actually fun with it.

Actually idk what plane you’re talking about tbh.

Arado — best bombload is the default, the 3 500kgs destroy the base, or kill 2 tanks reliably. The upgraded one has the same bombload, just different config, which does give it a couple km/h faster with bombs, but frankly doesn’t matter and does have a SL price.

He 177 — the default bombload can’t kill 2 bases, but it can destroy 1. But you do have to be slow enough to spam all the bombs, since it’s a lot of little ones. If you’re going to fast, you’ll miss some of them, which might be the reason for not destroying the base.

[Silly Pillow]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by Silly Chief (Pillow):

My awful experience with it could be mostly due to the insane grind to get decent bomb loads. I currently haven't unlocked all of them (I think I have all but the last one or something along those lines) so I just go for a base, don't get to destroy it completely, then RTB and hope that no prop planes catch up to me and gun me down lol. Though I do agree that the flying part is actually fun with it.

Actually idk what plane you’re talking about tbh.

Arado — best bombload is the default, the 3 500kgs destroy the base, or kill 2 tanks reliably. The upgraded one has the same bombload, just different config, which does give it a couple km/h faster with bombs, but frankly doesn’t matter and does have a SL price.

He 177 — the default bombload can’t kill 2 bases, but it can destroy 1. But you do have to be slow enough to spam all the bombs, since it’s a lot of little ones. If you’re going to fast, you’ll miss some of them, which might be the reason for not destroying the base.

The Arado, but isn't the default bombload just 3 250kgs? I'm currently on the 2 500kgs and 1 250kg if I'm not mistaken. Now I actually need to launch the game again just to be sure. Though I am talking about the first of the two Arados.

[Silly Pillow]

Originally posted by Silly Chief (Pillow):

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Actually idk what plane you’re talking about tbh.

Arado — best bombload is the default, the 3 500kgs destroy the base, or kill 2 tanks reliably. The upgraded one has the same bombload, just different config, which does give it a couple km/h faster with bombs, but frankly doesn’t matter and does have a SL price.

He 177 — the default bombload can’t kill 2 bases, but it can destroy 1. But you do have to be slow enough to spam all the bombs, since it’s a lot of little ones. If you’re going to fast, you’ll miss some of them, which might be the reason for not destroying the base.

The Arado, but isn't the default bombload just 3 250kgs? I'm currently on the 2 500kgs and 1 250kg if I'm not mistaken. Now I actually need to launch the game again just to be sure. Though I am talking about the first of the two Arados.

Seems I was being a tad bit silly, as there's only the one bomb load upgrade. Though I am struggling to get that one due to how slow the RP gain is. I really thought I'd remembered not getting bases in a single run but I'm clearly confusing it with another bomber in that case.

[kamikazi21358]

Actually thinking of it, I think you’re right, the default bombload is 250kg — but I am 90% sure, unless they changed it, that the 3 500kgs you also get as an option without mods. I did not have to grind out the 3 500kg bombs to get it? It came with the vehicle — 3 250kg bombs were free, 3 500kgs had a relatively low SL price per bombload, but you did get it with the vehicle.

[Silly Pillow]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Actually thinking of it, I think you’re right, the default bombload is 250kg — but I am 90% sure, unless they changed it, that the 3 500kgs you also get as an option without mods. I did not have to grind out the 3 500kg bombs to get it? It came with the vehicle — 3 250kg bombs were free, 3 500kgs had a relatively low SL price per bombload, but you did get it with the vehicle.

Yeah you're right about that my bad

[Sh4mimaBegum]

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However in the recent update they increased the repair cost of the he177 by a significant amount so high risk, high reward.
but ever since p47 lost its airspawn you are less likely to die straight away.

[AC137]

Also, should I bother with these vehicles:
-The Dorniers with torpedo loadouts
-Do 335 (B-1)
-Me 163 B-0

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Fiire2k17:

Also, should I bother with these vehicles:
-The Dorniers with torpedo loadouts
-Do 335 (B-1)
-Me 163 B-0

>Do 217 is good with the 4 1000kg bombs, there is no reason to use torpedos really. Even against ships, 4 1000kg bombs usually means 4 ship kills.

>Do 335 A-1 is fun as a ground pounder or bomber hunter, and that is only what it’s good at. If you mean the B-1, the premium, I would not pay money for it tbh.

>Me 163 B is good, but haven’t tried the B-0. But it has 4 2cm MG 151s with more ammo, so I would definatly consider it better, if you like the 163 B, B-0 would be worth considering. Although it would never get downtiered, because 8.3.

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Originally posted by Fiire2k17:

Also, should I bother with these vehicles:
-The Dorniers with torpedo loadouts
-Do 335 (B-1)
-Me 163 B-0

Unless you're going for titles, torpedo armaments really would be the last thing I research.
I remember then I was younger and dumber I thought I'd go for the Sea Hunter title and a lot of the torpedo hits (iirc there are italian bombers that carry 3, rather than the usual 2) resulted in impacts with no kill...

335A-1 (Or do you mean B-2?), I suppose is OK. They're a B-17's worst nightmare, and can clean up ground targets well... just remember they are heavy, don't turn very well, and are absolute pigs on one motor, if you can even climb with them.

Komet's are a bit of an acquired taste so to say. I have the 163B with the 30mm's, don't really care for it too much.

[Nick]

It's a good bomber. It's fast like a 288 carries a better bomber load and has better firepower. The mg151 are insane on the 177