HEAT-FS does no damage

[InfiniteSpin]

Ive literally fired AP rounds that do more dmg. Shoot a tank center mass? Pen its side? Boom, 1 crew member knocked out, congrats. Its one of the 100s of unrealistic features in this game that people dare call "realistic". Ive also had many matches in the american T32 "heavy" tank where ive bounced off of countless light tanks despite hitting all their weakspots with deadly precision. This game unironically has more RNG than WOT. Utter garbage

[ulzgoroth]

Not sure why you're shocked that AP rounds can have more behind-armor effect than sub-caliber penetration types. (HEAT is not the same mechanics as APFSDS but they do both make narrow holes.)

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Not sure why you're shocked that AP rounds can have more behind-armor effect than sub-caliber penetration types. (HEAT is not the same mechanics as APFSDS but they do both make narrow holes.)

Yeah lets forget that HEAT-FS is highly explosive and is supposed to have more spalling, lets just ignore that fact.

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by jr83:

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Not a valid argument, if thats what you're going for. Also, CC is god

Totally a valid argument. You can judge a book by its cover. You'll learn that when you grow up.

No, you cant. You just know what I stated is true and have no valuable rebuttal. You came looking for trouble, thats it. Ive done nothing to you. WT fanboys are pathetic

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Not sure why you're shocked that AP rounds can have more behind-armor effect than sub-caliber penetration types. (HEAT is not the same mechanics as APFSDS but they do both make narrow holes.)

Yeah lets forget that HEAT-FS is highly explosive and is supposed to have more spalling, lets just ignore that fact.

HEAT explodes outside the target. At a distance outside, even. It being 'highly explosive' is relevant to unprotected personnel standing nearby, but almost never to armored vehicles.

The damage mechanism for HEAT against hard targets is flinging fast-moving metal (flung very fast indeed by being inside the hollow of the charge) through the armor.

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Yeah lets forget that HEAT-FS is highly explosive and is supposed to have more spalling, lets just ignore that fact.

HEAT explodes outside the target. At a distance outside, even. It being 'highly explosive' is relevant to unprotected personnel standing nearby, but almost never to armored vehicles.

The damage mechanism for HEAT against hard targets is flinging fast-moving metal (flung very fast indeed by being inside the hollow of the charge) through the armor.

>Heat rounds shrapnel less and do less damage than AP
I just cant with you people anymore. Excuse me while I give my poor braincells some rest before you kill anymore

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

HEAT explodes outside the target. At a distance outside, even. It being 'highly explosive' is relevant to unprotected personnel standing nearby, but almost never to armored vehicles.

The damage mechanism for HEAT against hard targets is flinging fast-moving metal (flung very fast indeed by being inside the hollow of the charge) through the armor.

>Heat rounds shrapnel less and do less damage than AP
I just cant with you people anymore. Excuse me while I give my poor braincells some rest before you kill anymore

When you boot them up, feel free to try to actually express why you think that statement is surprising.

[Tom]

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

HEAT explodes outside the target. At a distance outside, even. It being 'highly explosive' is relevant to unprotected personnel standing nearby, but almost never to armored vehicles.

The damage mechanism for HEAT against hard targets is flinging fast-moving metal (flung very fast indeed by being inside the hollow of the charge) through the armor.

>Heat rounds shrapnel less and do less damage than AP
I just cant with you people anymore. Excuse me while I give my poor braincells some rest before you kill anymore

i mean that's how HEAT works in real life, the explosives are used outside the vehicle the vehicle to give mommentum to the round, there's no actual explosives going inside the tank, only the penetrating rod does, it's a shaped charge basically

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

Originally posted by Tom:

i mean that's how HEAT works in real life, the explosives are used outside the vehicle the vehicle to give mommentum to the round, there's no actual explosives going inside the tank, only the penetrating rod does, it's a shaped charge basically

Not an expert, but watchin this specific YouTuber talking about the war and how to kill tanks. Yeah, I thought HEAT/-FS was purely an explosive round but.. It explodes on contact and basically uses that explosive to propel it's core into the enemy vehicle. The more you know. Might take HESH more often for guaranteed ammo racking

[jr83]

Troll thread type 2: make an inaccurate statement with the intent of just telling everyone who corrects you you are wrong.

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by jr83:

Troll thread type 2: make an inaccurate statement with the intent of just telling everyone who corrects you you are wrong.

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Id hate to be you lmao

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by Tom:

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

>Heat rounds shrapnel less and do less damage than AP
I just cant with you people anymore. Excuse me while I give my poor braincells some rest before you kill anymore

i mean that's how HEAT works in real life, the explosives are used outside the vehicle the vehicle to give mommentum to the round, there's no actual explosives going inside the tank, only the penetrating rod does, it's a shaped charge basically

Ah it makes more sense when you put it like that. So is it safe to assume it should still shrapnel when in contact of a light tank, such as the bmp-1? I couldnt imagine it doing any less than an AP round.

[Tom]

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Originally posted by Tom:

i mean that's how HEAT works in real life, the explosives are used outside the vehicle the vehicle to give mommentum to the round, there's no actual explosives going inside the tank, only the penetrating rod does, it's a shaped charge basically

Ah it makes more sense when you put it like that. So is it safe to assume it should still shrapnel when in contact of a light tank, such as the bmp-1? I couldnt imagine it doing any less than an AP round.

no, not really, the explosives are all outside the tank, and the only thing that could shrapnel is the penetrator, if you want a one shot try hitting the turret, most of the time it overpressures

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by The Passion of Chris Chan:

Originally posted by Tom:

i mean that's how HEAT works in real life, the explosives are used outside the vehicle the vehicle to give mommentum to the round, there's no actual explosives going inside the tank, only the penetrating rod does, it's a shaped charge basically

Ah it makes more sense when you put it like that. So is it safe to assume it should still shrapnel when in contact of a light tank, such as the bmp-1? I couldnt imagine it doing any less than an AP round.

You should not expect the blast effect from a HEAT round to do a lot except perhaps to open-topped or outright unarmored vehicles.

Maybe big-caliber HEAT (like 122mm) would blast-kill a BMP?

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Maybe big-caliber HEAT (like 122mm) would blast-kill a BMP?

For the safety of man kind, I would hope so. But I suspect it wouldn't unless it was a very specific side shot

[Tom]

Originally posted by 『𝓢𝒾𝓃𝓃𝑒𝓇』:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Maybe big-caliber HEAT (like 122mm) would blast-kill a BMP?

For the safety of man kind, I would hope so. But I suspect it wouldn't unless it was a very specific side shot

it actually does if you heat the turret, or side, or anything where this isn't something in the way like the front plate