Other players have complained about you more than 10 times.

[Mac]

Complaint reasons:
Abuse
Chat Spamming
Teamkiller
Foul Language
Passive behaviour
Other

What exactly is going on here Gaijin? I know that people have opened threads about this before and were told that this does not have any direct consequences but I am still very confused about this because frankly speaking I am not aware of having done anything that would warrant people "complaining" about me.

Chat has literally been turned off for the past few weeks and even when it was still turned on I generally don't even use it unless to call out incoming bomber attacks or such things. I certainly can't remember ever getting into any arguments or something like that in the in-game chat with people.

I also do not remember teamkilling anyone in weeks, possibly even months and certainly not on purpose.

I don't consider myself a passive player either and generally end up at the top of the scoreboard and play the objectives.

So my problem is that believe it or not but I am getting the impression here that a lot of people just file false reports against people these days or revenge reports and I guess the point of this thread is to ask for maybe a mechanic that punishes players for filing false or abusive reports.

I can only think of 2 reasons that maybe would explain why in all my years of playing this game I suddenly see this message appearing and especially at this point where certainly it cannot be chat related.

Reason 1: A couple of months back I joined a Russian squadron that was open for everyone to join. I don't know anyone in the squad actually and I only joined it to be able to farm a squad vehicle on the side while playing and simply because it was the first one that popped up and was open to join without an invitation. Now the thing is that the squad name is named after the Soviet secret service / secret police so maybe regarding the current heat and constant complains from players regarding anything "Russian" these days people reported me for having a squad name like that? And before anyone asks no I am NOT using a "Z" decal or anything like that. All my tanks are default without ANY decals on them except my Japanese M24 which has a Samurai decal on it and that's it. No other decals.

Reason 2: I played a lot of 2.7 - 3.3 BR games lately just because I missed playing those low tier vehicles and I am enjoying it a lot. The problem is that I usually end up extremely high in the scoreboard with like easily 12-14 kills (arcade) and maybe players feel like I am cheating? My intention is not to seal club but it is just a nice change from constantly playing the higher BRs where people tryhard a lot more. I also solo queue and it wasn't more than maybe a few dozen games.

I honestly cannot think of ANY other reason and I am more leaning towards Reason 1 than Reason 2 at the moment.

So I guess my aditional question would be if anyone with Russian names or Russian sounding squadrons has experienced something similar lately which could maybe at least point towards some evidence for my theory.

Thanks for reading.

[✡︎☭ Farmuhan ☭✡]

i thought report players is already gone temporary. So is it exist again now?

[Freelancer]

If what you're saying is true, my guess is that a certain person/group are just annoyed with you and are reporting you for various (nonsensical) reasons just to get you banned or something. Maybe another antagonistic/rival squad especially in the light of current events as you've said.

[Mac]

Well I just now received this message when I logged in 5 minutes ago but you are making a good point as well. In recent weeks I haven't even seen this button at all. I guess it is back? Or maybe you can file reports using other ways than the in-game report? I honestly don't even know because I rarely bother to report people and the few times I did it (mostly bot users) I always used the in-game option.

As silly as this may sound but I wouldn't mind reading the exact reasons WHY I was reported because I would really like to know.

Would it maybe be an idea to show players the anonymized (so I cannot know who reported me) reasons that were given? What I mean is the actual text in the text window in which you can type what caused you to report a player because unfortunately I wouldn't know how to "improve" my behaviour if I don't even know what made players report me.

The only reason I can think of right now is leaving my Russian named squadron if this is actually what caused people to report me but honestly if that is the reason then we have a much bigger problem here at hand that will not simply be solved by me joining an English named squadron.

[Mac]

Originally posted by Freelancer:

If what you're saying is true, my guess is that a certain person/group are just annoyed with you and are reporting you for various (nonsensical) reasons just to get you banned or something. Maybe another antagonistic/rival squad especially in the light of current events as you've said.

That is my theory right now but I honestly have nothing to confirm that at the moment but it would make sense especially regarding all the hate threads that have popped up even in the steam forums recently.

The thing is that I have played this game for years at this point and I have NEVER gotten that message before but now suddenly 2-3 weeks after you know what event I mean I suddenly get this message? Sounds like too much of a coincidence to me.

[Alex Starwind]

Are you by any chance one of this idiots who put fascist Z on they tanks? If not, then sorry for assuming that.

[Mac]

Originally posted by Alex Starwind:

Are you by any chance one of this idiots who put fascist Z on they tanks? If not, then sorry for assuming that.

Nope. I try to stay out of politics completely in this game. I am not using any decals at all except the Samurai decal on my M24. Certainly no flags of any country or markings.

I do however have the Russian / Soviet related secret service / secret police squadron name attached to my name as I mentioned in my original post which so far is my only theory that I have for players suddenly mass reporting me.

[Alex Starwind]

I don't think it's related to your squadron name (after all it's not your personal nik name), but who know.... Hope you will sort it out soon.

[hsf_]

Do you have any decals which are perhaps antagonistic right now, such as a specific nation flag or certain letters which have been seen on vehicles lately?

[Mac]

Does anyone know how far into the past these mentioned complaints go?

I am trying to figure out if for the past year or so I have been slowly accumulating for example 8/10 reports for whatever reason and now someone simply filed 2 more complaints against me in the past few weeks which made it hit the 10/10 limit.

Or do they expire after X amount of time and all of those 10 complaints are really from just the past few weeks for example?

While that information still wouldn't help me figure out what caused players to report me it would at least help me figure out if I have been mass reported in the past few weeks or if this is totally unrelated to recent events and I merely slowly accumulated them over a long time from long before this whole thing.

[Mac]

Originally posted by redned:

I've gotten similar reports before, I know for a fact I don't do anything to make people report me.

Also now that you mention it I do know for a fact as well that some players have reported me for absolute bogus reasons in the past.

I even made a thread about it once maybe like half a year ago because one person messaged me after a match with something ridiculous like "reported invisible cheater". Apparently he thought I was using an "invisible hack"...

Do you think that this ridiculous report from like half a year ago did also count towards those 10/10 complaints or has that one already expired?

Edit: Thread I made back then:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/236390/discussions/0/4521040918055198058/

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by Mac:

Also now that you mention it I do know for a fact as well that some players have reported me for absolute bogus reasons in the past.

Just look at half the games when chat was enabled.
The amount of people saying -reported for spawncamping/killstealing etc which neither is a reason to do so, then all those people who dont understand the game and call half the people they see cheaters/reported.
There is no prerequisite to be able to report, just the ability to click a button/write a handful of words. The automated system treats them all the same.
Now i dont know if they track ips etc for reports these days, but awhile back people made multiple accounts to report a single person many times. Whether it worked or not i dont know.

Only you know your behaviour fully, if you dont think you have reason to worry or are surprised at it, just message support for clarification etc, they may be able to help.
But people seem to be getting saltier, and crying over nothing more/making up random conspiracies to believe. Wouldnt be surprised if half the reports, or more, were just malicious/uninformed.

That being said i have tkd, have said things i shouldnt in chat(nothing major) etc, had many abuse me/called me a cheater on occasion. Never had a chatban or popup warning. So either you got unlucky.
If chat was still up i wouldve said maybe you said something you dont find offensive and others do. Not always to know what is a common offensive term to some people if you arent part of that world yourself.

Still maybe worth a quick msg to support just so they review it and know it was unwarranted, so if anything happens further down the line they dont add this current issue to your list of offences if theres anything else they think needs action later on.

[Mac]

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

Still maybe worth a quick msg to support just so they review it and know it was unwarranted, so if anything happens further down the line they dont add this current issue to your list of offences if theres anything else they think needs action later on.

That's why I am considering maybe leaving the Russian squadron because it is the only reason that I can think of at the moment. Especially considering that in my years of playing this game I just happen to now get a "warning" out of nowhere for no apparent reason to the best of my knowledge.

I've seen a lot of Russophobia and anti-Russian sentiment in the steam reviews, steam discussions and in-game recently from this community and I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of these same "people" now slowly start spamming false reports against anyone with Russian related names / squadrons.

I doubt that the support would be able to help me to be honest and I highly doubt that they would clear fake reports filed against me. It isn't the first time after all as I mentioned in the linked thread from half a year ago.

The best I can do is figure out the reason to prevent not having dozens of more reports filed against me because as you mentioned I wouldn't rule out that further down the line the next time someone files a faulty cheat report against me or something like that it might not reflect well if there are hundreds of fake "abuse" complaints somewhere in the history log of my account.

I just find it preposterous that the game throws a "warning" like this in my face telling me to stop being "abusive" when ironically I am the one being griefed by other players who abuse the report function for their own personal ulterior motives.

Anyway I doubt I'll get more out of this thread at this point but thank you for everyone for participated so far.

I'm gonna leave the squadron and try to find a new one and hopefully I won't see this message again in the next year or so.

[CyberStonka]

Originally posted by Mac:

Complaint reasons:
Abuse
Chat Spamming
Teamkiller
Foul Language
Passive behaviour
Other

What exactly is going on here Gaijin?

Players can still report you via server replay functionality available here https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/
As stated numerous times, we do not have any auto-ban functionality connected to number of reports (so there is no option someone get auto banned just because other people decided to mass report him).
If you did nothing wrong in game, you are safe. If someone is abusing reports, he will be punished.

[Mac]

Originally posted by Deadeye Duncan:

This is about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. As they say, in soviet Russia you go to gulag if you don't agree with princess Putin. Played this game since launch, won't be getting another single damn USD from me.

No. This thread was purely about me trying to figure out why people are suddenly filing mass reports against me when I cannot possibly think of anything that I have done wrong in the past few weeks or even months (let alone 10 times).

Your post however does proof my point that some people have completely lost their minds and become hysterically obsessed with trying to politicize everything. I am just trying to play a game that I enjoy and keep politics out of it.

@CyberStonka

I hope that you will stand by that statement in the future because frankly speaking even though my conscience is perfectly clear in terms of how I behave in this game I cannot say in all honestly that I am not at least a little worried now about my account after having a message like that pop up when I start my game.

If I get into a situation in the future where I have to explain one of my actions I certainly don't wanna read about how my account has a long history of many reports for "abusive behaviour" and that I was "warned". I really cannot think of even a single action in recent weeks or months that would have been reportable or against the TOS.

@Moderators

Probably best to lock this thread, thank you.

[AttackerCat]

Originally posted by Mac:

[quote=Deadeye
@Moderators

Probably best to lock this thread, thank you.

Cheers mate, will lock. Good hunting out there!