Big regret, F5C premium.

[Zeno]

I am not new to playing fighter jets, but I am really struggling to get kills with the premium F5C.
It's missiles seem to be completely useless (using the AIM-9E) and my pilot gets knocked out quickly when turning, although his stamina and g-tolerance is boosted up a lot.

Are there any hints some F5C Pilot can give me so I get on with this very expensive premium plane somehow ?

I mainly bought it to unlock the U.S plane tree but currently this is not getting me anywhere, I made a lot better experiences using the MiG-21-SPS-K or the A5-C

[Colonel Jason]

All the planes you mentioned has better missiles,top tier missiles in fact.With F-5C you have to rely on your guns and excellent manuverability.Try to ace your crews,it'll help a lot.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by Colonel Jason:

All the planes you mentioned has better missiles,top tier missiles in fact.With F-5C you have to rely on your guns and excellent manuverability.Try to ace your crews,it'll help a lot.

Hi,

I did ace my crew by skill points... But my missiles just won't hit anything and I hate using my guns. If I can't even hit anything not even a calmly flying plane at like 1,20 km, then I don't see why this thing has missiles in the first place.

[Jaes]

If you have experience with the MiG-21, you shouldn't have too much trouble with the F-5C. The primary difference between them is energy retention and speed. F-5C accelerates pretty decently and holds speed in a turn much better, but naturally can't pull off the sudden AoA maneuver a Delta Wing can and the MiG-21 has a higher top end speed.

The F-5C is a gun duelist. It's frankly your primary weapon while the AIM-9Es are your secondaries. The only targets the AIM-9Es will hit reliably are slow and blind targets. The only time you should really use them is if you want to try to force your opponent to bleed speed so you can close in with guns.

In general, you should play it in a supporting role. Glue yourself to a Phantom or other equivalents and be their shadow. MiG-21s are your primary targets. They'll be vulnerable after they've completed a maneuver so that's the best time to engage them.

[DrunkenTee]

Buys Jet that performs best in furballs where guns are essential and complains why missiles dont hit anything, ah yes.. maybe inform yourself what kind of plane you are about to buy first :p

I can still remember all the people crying about the Mig-23 how its a ♥♥♥♥ plane etc, but they all just played it the wrong way

[Zeno]

Originally posted by DrunkenTee:

Buys Jet that performs best in furballs where guns are essential and complains why missiles dont hit anything, ah yes.. maybe inform yourself what kind of plane you are about to buy first :p

I can still remember all the people crying about the Mig-23 how its a ♥♥♥♥ plane etc, but they all just played it the wrong way

"The F-5C is generally an all-round good fighter. It's not the fastest plane and not the most manoeuvrable, but the combination of its decent speed, acceleration, and manoeuvrability make it a joy to fly and fight in."

[Matticus]

I bounce between the F-5C and F4-E for grinding, it's an amazing little plane, you just have to know how to fly it.

The F-5 series all have a VERY high skill ceiling, F5-E even moreso.

[KokkoJustus]

F5C is really amazing if you know how to fly it, It's tiny and agile, can quite often fly back to airfield after taking a missile.
Yes, it missiles are quite bad, but you have more than enough ammo to clear the whole enemy team in your guns.

[ulzgoroth]

Not sure why AIM-9E are gibing you so much trouble when AIM-9B last I checked are quite functional if limited.

But you are expected to use guns in most planes around that level. The 2 missiles may be okay but they're only two missiles.

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Originally posted by Colonel Jason:

All the planes you mentioned has better missiles,top tier missiles in fact.With F-5C you have to rely on your guns and excellent manuverability.Try to ace your crews,it'll help a lot.

This.

Originally posted by Jaes:

The F-5C is a gun duelist. It's frankly your primary weapon while the AIM-9Es are your secondaries. The only targets the AIM-9Es will hit reliably are slow and blind targets. The only time you should really use them is if you want to try to force your opponent to bleed speed so you can close in with guns.

In general, you should play it in a supporting role. Glue yourself to a Phantom or other equivalents and be their shadow. MiG-21s are your primary targets. They'll be vulnerable after they've completed a maneuver so that's the best time to engage them.

This.


Personally i was right there with you. I bought the plane pre order, and honestly was far from thrilled until i realized that i was asking the plane to perform in ways that the plane simply could not deliver. It does not play like a phantom, it certainly doesnt play like the f104s or f105.

Also, as others said... there are "weapons", and there are "tools". For the BR, AIM9E is far, far from competitive. Better than 9B, yes certainly -- but at 10,3 and often fighting 11,0-11,3, the planes have great countermeasures and impressive performance.. anyone paying attention will avoid them, and you only have 2 missiles. They are used for targets that are afk/otherwise distracted, and as a tool to get people to expend flares or energy to allow you to get closer.

With time and experience, learning what the plane excels at and flounders helplessly with... you will do much better with this plane and i have grown to like it very, very much. Its like any other plane- cant ask a plane to do something it is bad at and them be surprised it performed poorly. Again, i was right there with you. This plane has a learning curve if youre not familiar with other F5s.

[-reno-FR-]

And any advise about the Super Mystère B2 & the Jaguar?

Since I left prop planes, I admit that i'm terribly bad on planes dogfights as soon as missiles are here.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg Wulf:

Originally posted by Colonel Jason:

All the planes you mentioned has better missiles,top tier missiles in fact.With F-5C you have to rely on your guns and excellent manuverability.Try to ace your crews,it'll help a lot.

This.

Originally posted by Jaes:

The F-5C is a gun duelist. It's frankly your primary weapon while the AIM-9Es are your secondaries. The only targets the AIM-9Es will hit reliably are slow and blind targets. The only time you should really use them is if you want to try to force your opponent to bleed speed so you can close in with guns.

In general, you should play it in a supporting role. Glue yourself to a Phantom or other equivalents and be their shadow. MiG-21s are your primary targets. They'll be vulnerable after they've completed a maneuver so that's the best time to engage them.

This.


Personally i was right there with you. I bought the plane pre order, and honestly was far from thrilled until i realized that i was asking the plane to perform in ways that the plane simply could not deliver. It does not play like a phantom, it certainly doesnt play like the f104s or f105.

Also, as others said... there are "weapons", and there are "tools". For the BR, AIM9E is far, far from competitive. Better than 9B, yes certainly -- but at 10,3 and often fighting 11,0-11,3, the planes have great countermeasures and impressive performance.. anyone paying attention will avoid them, and you only have 2 missiles. They are used for targets that are afk/otherwise distracted, and as a tool to get people to expend flares or energy to allow you to get closer.

I did indeed use the cannons and was quite effective using it due to the high stock of ammo, but I just enjoy using properly functioning missiles at this tier, so I keep going back to my mig and AC.

Not sure what I stick to, fact is I can get the phantom even playing the german tree

[ulzgoroth]

TBH from the description it sounds like the A-5C is under-BR'd. It's not super fast, granted, but it's got best-in-the-game AAMs at 10.0? And supposedly decent maneuvering besides?

That MIG might not be, though high-end missiles and option of countermeasures sure looks nice from the perspective of my same-BR Starfighters. (They've got a very good gun and probably better acceleration, though.)

[nirvana_sth]

Originally posted by H0rs3fly:

I am not new to playing fighter jets, but I am really struggling to get kills with the premium F5C.
It's missiles seem to be completely useless (using the AIM-9E) and my pilot gets knocked out quickly when turning, although his stamina and g-tolerance is boosted up a lot.

Are there any hints some F5C Pilot can give me so I get on with this very expensive premium plane somehow ?

I mainly bought it to unlock the U.S plane tree but currently this is not getting me anywhere, I made a lot better experiences using the MiG-21-SPS-K or the A5-C

yeh i did the same. bought F-5C to grind US air tree, and i finally managed it.
its a very painful plane, pretty much like all other prem planes.
best to hit bases, thats what i did.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by nirvana_sth:

Originally posted by H0rs3fly:

I am not new to playing fighter jets, but I am really struggling to get kills with the premium F5C.
It's missiles seem to be completely useless (using the AIM-9E) and my pilot gets knocked out quickly when turning, although his stamina and g-tolerance is boosted up a lot.

Are there any hints some F5C Pilot can give me so I get on with this very expensive premium plane somehow ?

I mainly bought it to unlock the U.S plane tree but currently this is not getting me anywhere, I made a lot better experiences using the MiG-21-SPS-K or the A5-C

yeh i did the same. bought F-5C to grind US air tree, and i finally managed it.
its a very painful plane, pretty much like all other prem planes.
best to hit bases, thats what i did.

Yeah...well I was hoping for a modern jet fighter as explained in the plane's description.

A shame. I go back to my german MiG or my french vountour.

[HOBO ACTUAL]

Originally posted by H0rs3fly:

I am not new to playing fighter jets, but I am really struggling to get kills with the premium F5C.
It's missiles seem to be completely useless (using the AIM-9E) and my pilot gets knocked out quickly when turning, although his stamina and g-tolerance is boosted up a lot.

Are there any hints some F5C Pilot can give me so I get on with this very expensive premium plane somehow ?

I mainly bought it to unlock the U.S plane tree but currently this is not getting me anywhere, I made a lot better experiences using the MiG-21-SPS-K or the A5-C

You are right the missiles are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Instead of seeing them as a way to get kills only use them as a method to make a plane youre chasing turn and bleed speed. You should see your main armament as the cannons as they are actually really decent. The main advantage the f5 has is maneuvering. Ive fought f5s in the mig 23 mld and it cant win in a turn fight.