French planes

[Kitsünen™]

Are they turn fighters, energy fighters, or BnZ's?

[DapperSpino]

They're cannon fodder.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by The German Wulf CoN:

Are they turn fighters, energy fighters, or BnZ's?

Depends from the type of plane.

[Kitsünen™]

Originally posted by DapperSpino:

They're cannon fodder.

That seems about right

[DapperSpino]

Originally posted by D34thst4lk3r:

Originally posted by The German Wulf CoN:

Are they turn fighters, energy fighters, or BnZ's?

Depends from the type of plane.

The fully french fighter line is garbage, you've got the Bearcat and Hellcat on the American fighters, which are both good, also the early bombers are great.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by DapperSpino:

Originally posted by D34thst4lk3r:

Depends from the type of plane.

The fully french fighter line is garbage, you've got the Bearcat and Hellcat on the American fighters, which are both good, also the early bombers are great.

Wouldn't say they are garbage, but I personally feel like the Americans have the best planes and tanks ingame overall.

[ShadowTrooper001]

Depends on how you fly, I get at least 1-2 kills in RB usually in my D.520.

The Reserves are odd in my opinion... idk how to put it.

The Potez bomber is awful... especially compared to the other low rank bombers.

The Potez 630 and 631 are great however, the 630 lacks ammo a bit... but 1 step up with the 631 is a minor change, with a big increase in firepower... i say these 2 are comparable to the Bf 110.

The 222.2 is mainly a bombload with wings... the guns won't do much, but you can bomb anything.

223.3 is like the 222, but replace 2 gunner with 20mm's... they're inaccurate, but when they hit, they decimate the enemy.

The 174 and... the other 2 engined one next to it, i haven't tested yet.

Then theres their 4 engined one... MB.(forgot the name), the turrets are very limited... the bombload is subpar when the 222.2 carries more. The main strength to this is probably the speed at which it can dive.

The MB.(number) fighter seems promising to me... i've only flown it once, but it seems to climb well, only issue I see is that the guns have low counts in ammunition, but i heard it's missing wing MG's... so it may get better.

The VG.33 would be great but is limited by its fuel load weighing it down.

The CR.714 is... sub-par... mainly because sure... it's very light and can be nimble... but the engine in it is very weak, barely generating somewhere around 350 horsepower

The VB.10's are heavy fighters... they perform like a P-47... with max fuel... and a bombload attached, but if they get on target, they shred anything.

The Jets... idk yet... but i forsee the Vaultor IIA going up to 9.0 and the IIB going to 8.3 or 8.7.

(Sorry if i missed any)

[Zeno]

Originally posted by ShadowTrooper001:

Depends on how you fly, I get at least 1-2 kills in RB usually in my D.520.

The Reserves are odd in my opinion... idk how to put it.

The Potez bomber is awful... especially compared to the other low rank bombers.

The Potez 630 and 631 are great however, the 630 lacks ammo a bit... but 1 step up with the 631 is a minor change, with a big increase in firepower... i say these 2 are comparable to the Bf 110.

The 222.2 is mainly a bombload with wings... the guns won't do much, but you can bomb anything.

223.3 is like the 222, but replace 2 gunner with 20mm's... they're inaccurate, but when they hit, they decimate the enemy.

The 174 and... the other 2 engined one next to it, i haven't tested yet.

Then theres their 4 engined one... MB.(forgot the name), the turrets are very limited... the bombload is subpar when the 222.2 carries more. The main strength to this is probably the speed at which it can dive.

The MB.(number) fighter seems promising to me... i've only flown it once, but it seems to climb well, only issue I see is that the guns have low counts in ammunition, but i heard it's missing wing MG's... so it may get better.

The VG.33 would be great but is limited by its fuel load weighing it down.

The CR.714 is... sub-par... mainly because sure... it's very light and can be nimble... but the engine in it is very weak, barely generating somewhere around 350 horsepower

The VB.10's are heavy fighters... they perform like a P-47... with max fuel... and a bombload attached, but if they get on target, they shred anything.

The Jets... idk yet... but i forsee the Vaultor IIA going up to 9.0 and the IIB going to 8.3 or 8.7.

(Sorry if i missed any)

I don't want to say more about it, as your analysis seems detailed and good enough.

I personally can only say, there is no need to fly the French if you are not French :-))

There are other ingame nations that are more comfortable to fly, this is just my opinion.

[ShadowTrooper001]

I like them to be honest... but 1 thing that goes along with all of them is they they often lack in speed... the D.520 is slower than the Bf 109 E

The CR.714 slower than the He.100 (seriously tho, the 714 is nowhere near the He.100 in terms of performance).

And i agree... other nations are much easier to fly, the French always lack in speed, are passable in firepower... but often get left with teammates who cannot take advantage of their low speeds and subpar climbs.

When a french pilot gets into a maneuvering fight vs a comparable fighter, they can do well, but they rarely get to shine due to their flying styles.

I agree sadly... i like the fighters personally, but other nations have a much easier learning curve (even the U.S)

[Zeno]

Originally posted by ShadowTrooper001:

I like them to be honest... but 1 thing that goes along with all of them is they they often lack in speed... the D.520 is slower than the Bf 109 E

The CR.714 slower than the He.100 (seriously tho, the 714 is nowhere near the He.100 in terms of performance).

And i agree... other nations are much easier to fly, the French always lack in speed, are passable in firepower... but often get left with teammates who cannot take advantage of their low speeds and subpar climbs.

When a french pilot gets into a maneuvering fight vs a comparable fighter, they can do well, but they rarely get to shine due to their flying styles.

I agree sadly... i like the fighters personally, but other nations have a much easier learning curve (even the U.S)

I wouldn't say it's only about the learning curve. Let's say two pilots, same level of skill face each other, one plays through a few French fighters of 2 or 3 tiers, and the other one plays Americans, then it is very likely that the U.S pilot will win, simply for the fact that French planes only have an advantage, and can only be effective if your opponent doesn't know how to fly his plane.

I honestly can't say anything about the French Fighter Jet on tier 5, as I do not even own it, but I doubt it is much better than let's say the U.S sabre, at least not by checking its stats.

France was only added for the French players, and I love that they add new nations ,no matter how good they are.

[Rei]

Not a big fan of them honestly. Throughout tier 1 - 3 you get only 60 cannon rounds, mediocre engine performance, meh maneuverability, and terrible 7.5 guns. Their top tier prop, the Vb.10 is a flying brick with a kick ass armament. Belts for their cannons aren't too good either. Definitely a bit of a let down, although they do have the Vautour and F8F-1b I guess.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I like two Potez with cannons that are great for killing people who dont know how well this big plane turns. 1.3 fighters with one hispano are also kinda fun and two first bombers with insane bomb loads. That's about it, rest seems to be really mediocre stuff.

[Kay]

I very much enjoy the MB157, it's like a lighter P-47 (nearly as fast, far better Turner at low speeds) but the ammo load is incredibly annoying.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by ShadowTrooper001:

I like them to be honest... but 1 thing that goes along with all of them is they they often lack in speed... the D.520 is slower than the Bf 109 E

The CR.714 slower than the He.100 (seriously tho, the 714 is nowhere near the He.100 in terms of performance).

And i agree... other nations are much easier to fly, the French always lack in speed, are passable in firepower... but often get left with teammates who cannot take advantage of their low speeds and subpar climbs.

When a french pilot gets into a maneuvering fight vs a comparable fighter, they can do well, but they rarely get to shine due to their flying styles.

I agree sadly... i like the fighters personally, but other nations have a much easier learning curve (even the U.S)

He 100D isn't a fair comparison given the He 100 is stupidly undertiered. If it had cannon armament like it was proposed, it could easily be a 3.3 aircraft or higher.

[ShadowTrooper001]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

He 100D isn't a fair comparison given the He 100 is stupidly undertiered. If it had cannon armament like it was proposed, it could easily be a 3.3 aircraft or higher.

I see the 714 to also be worse than comparable BR vehicles sadly, like the Hurricanes, the 109 E-1, even the I-16 feels like a much more competitive plane...

Sorry for my bad example... i was trying a justify why the 714 is weak, and why the 100D is too strong for 1.7 (performance wise)

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by ShadowTrooper001:

I see the 714 to also be worse than comparable BR vehicles sadly, like the Hurricanes, the 109 E-1, even the I-16 feels like a much more competitive plane...

Sorry for my bad example... i was trying a justify why the 714 is weak, and why the 100D is too strong for 1.7 (performance wise)

No I get you, I flew the CR 714 and it was garbage, it's insanely slow for a 1.7 aircraft, and is probably the worst one in the game.