British AA between 4.0 and 8.0?

[kingtigergamer]

How are you going to move the falcon up further without adding an AA between the very slow shooting crusader AA and the falcon. Im playing 7.7 right now (but anything above 5.3 sucks for either crusader AAs) and I'm using the crusader aa mk2 because of the slow rate of fire on the mk1. both crusader aa are too slow and ineffective at anything above 5.3-5.7. Absolutely rediculous that there is no aa between the two. So painful having to use the relatively ♥♥♥♥ WWII AA against the radar equipped coldwar AA.

[Suthirak_D42]

Use Mk2
It has turret armor and turn faster.


Some SPAA are must-pass even they have higher BR because it may be harder to use.

I use the fastest turret of each nations because sometime planes will rush SPAA and fast turret can take them all in time.

[CH13F]

its not vehicles fault, its 40mm bofors, USA for ex suffer between 4.3 and 8.0 due to lack of other spaa options. m19 and m42 cant really do much,because 36model bofors didnt have proximity fuse ammo.at least i couldnt find any resource indicating there was. anyway,you get few kills here and there with HE-T clips but very unreliable. AP clips also lack a lotta penetration,it cant do any anti-tank duty aganist most mediums and heavies neither. even when used for sideshots. later models during 80s probably have proximity fuses but this doesnt concern us since those later models not in game.

anyway my advice is to stay away 40mm bofors vehicles. in case of UK, stay with crusader mkII until falcon. thats what i did.

allied air superiority must be established with fighters unfortunately until 8.0

[mrgjeep]

Originally posted by CH13F:

its not vehicles fault, its 40mm bofors, USA for ex suffer between 4.3 and 8.0 due to lack of other spaa options. m19 and m42 cant really do much,because 36model bofors didnt have proximity fuse ammo.at least i couldnt find any resource indicating there was. anyway,you get few kills here and there with HE-T clips but very unreliable. AP clips also lack a lotta penetration,it cant do any anti-tank duty aganist most mediums and heavies neither. even when used for sideshots. later models during 80s probably have proximity fuses but this doesnt concern us since those later models not in game.

anyway my advice is to stay away 40mm bofors vehicles. in case of UK, stay with crusader mkII until falcon. thats what i did.

allied air superiority must be established with fighters unfortunately until 8.0

Hey I Play 4.0 USA RB An For AA I Have To Use The 2.3 M16 An When We
Get Uptiered To 5.0 Planes They Are Alot Faster ,,, An We Got Nothing Till 8.0 M163 .... So I Feel Your Pain . Good Luck .

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

They should have just removed Falcon`s apds and put it at 7.3 instead.

[CH13F]

there you go, an award for your brilliant idea.

[hsf_]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

They should have just removed Falcon`s apds and put it at 7.3 instead.

I was going to say this, but the last time I mentioned removing the APDS and lowering the BR of the Falcon, I got totally hounded.

[FizzyElf]

This is an AA or anti air thread mate. We're talking about the lack of AA in 4.0+ matches and how it makes it difficult to counter enemy CAS (close air support), we're not complaining about germans not have invisible tanks or the amount of russian premiums running around. There is an issue there too but I think your post works better in a tank vs tank focused thread.

[FizzyElf]

As for AA your better off using the fastest turning and firing vehicle you can and trying to get the BR doesn't matter and skill matters awards (500 sl and 5,000 sl respectively), it would be nice to get more 5.0-7.0 AA but aside from the Skink (Canadian AA) I'm drawing a blank as to what they could add that would fit into medium tier lineups.

[Maj.Tryhard]

It sounds like this is about a tech gap, isn't it? I don't know of anything between the bofors and the vulcan. If this is just a problem for US and UK, then what do the other nations use for AA in this mid-range?

[Maprikan]

I think they should reverse the Falcon BR raise and instead lower it to like 7.3 & when installing APDS belts increase it to 8.0.

[Aegis270]

This is a simply fixed problem. Firstly, they need to drop the Falcon back down to 7.7 or lower, and remove it's APDS belts. It's an anti-air, it doesn't need the abiliy to pen 80% of what it sees from the front with no issue. AP belts work just fine against a variety of light vehicles, so it can still go tank hunting if need be. And with the South African tanks added, UK has other options for mobile tanks at the tier.

Secondly, add the Skink. Just add it. It's been suggested for years, and the UK desperately needs it to compete properly in the mid tiers. Stick it at like 4.3, and it'll still be effective even up to wherever the Falcon ends up.

It is beyond absurd that the only nations with decent mid tier AA are Germany and Italy (Mostly because of the Cold War era shoebox that in no way deserves it's BR).

[halolo39]

well the simplest solution is adding the Skink but gaijin time and time again refuse to add anything useful for British tree.

[FizzyElf]

Originally posted by halolo39:

well the simplest solution is adding the Skink but gaijin time and time again refuse to add anything useful for British tree.

if they ever add the Bob Semple tank and Skink, Britain shall be unstoppable!

[Stridswombat]

Honestly just add the Centaur AA. The twin polstens are excellent at shooting down planes as it is. The only concern is they burn through the ammo like crazy. A centaur AA with more ammo and better protection would be sufficient to cover the gap.

Also, for those of you complaining about AA... Try Sweden. Literally nothing but mostly useless 40mm AA up to 8.0. Even rank 1 doesn't get it because they added a light TD instead of an actual AA gun to it. Lvkv 42 might be decent if it didn't lack ammo so badly, but even that isn't great. I'd kill for some polsten AA to uptier instead.

[Fal]

i use staghound as AA the .50 seens more reliable to me than the 20mm and the skill matters achiviement in each kill helps keep my SL in balance when i die with FV4202 and caernarvon, and for some f*cked up reason the .50 does damage to enemy tanks barrels while the ap belt for the 20mm dont,