How do you play german fighters?

[Gjeaneman]

I get outgunned, out manoeuvred, out climbed, they fly faster than me. How am I supposed to shoot anyone down if I just get chased around the map by some japanese fighter who is lvl 95 and has a better plane than me in every regard.

[Lunovus]

Uhm, most of the 109s are totally OP in AB.

If you got Minengeschoß, pretty much nothing outguns you.
Maybe in amount of lead or size of projectile, but not in killing power.

Japanese fighters can turn well, burn well (like paper drenched in petrol), have puny guns and are slow.

Most nations can't climb with the Germans.
Most nations are outgunned by the Germans.

Sorry, but if you do bad in German planes, I can only recommend learning the basics and then practice, practice, practice.

Read some guides in the official forum's air academy section and/or watch some YouTube videos on the basics of dogfighting in WT.

[Gjeaneman]

Originally posted by Lunovus:

Uhm, most of the 109s are totally OP in AB.

If you got Minengeschoß, pretty much nothing outguns you.
Maybe in amount of lead or size of projectile, but not in killing power.

Japanese fighters can turn well, burn well (like paper drenched in petrol), have puny guns and are slow.

Most nations can't climb with the Germans.
Most nations are outgunned by the Germans.

Sorry, but if you do bad in German planes, I can only recommend learning the basics and then practice, practice, practice.

Read some guides in the official forum's air academy section and/or watch some YouTube videos on the basics of dogfighting in WT.

I got minengeschoß and now all the planes I even shoot once just explode

[MentalBanana]

For most BF109 the trick is to boom and zoom, since the BF109 can out-climb a lot of planes except some prem planes like the XP-50, try to stay high as well since you will be at a major disadvantage flying low against American planes and Japanese planes.

Try not to drive in a vertical line against American planes since they can easily beat you in speed instead climb instead, since they struggle to climb since there more heavier like the P-51.

Germany is my main tree, with all of the bf109 unlocked, from my experience i always put the extra cannons on my plane since they shred so easily through planes since most of the shells are "Minengeschoß" allowing you to short burst targets easily. I find the turn time not horrible, but comparing to British and american planes you will struggle, that's why you use the boom and zoom tactic; Some inexperience players will try to follow you but of course struggle to catch up which then allows you to turn around since there energy is low at that moment allowing you to swoop in and destroy them since they will struggle to get out of the way.

The part i struggled with was the german jets since you will be outclassed by more modern jets and typically get uptiered from 8.7 - 9.3 BR. The Me 163 is a fun jet to get when you get to that stage since it out turn every jet you come across, in my opinion the best dogfighter to fly at that br as well the jet is really tiny so its hard to hit the jet. But the speed is a problem since it uses thrusters which uses more fuel which makes fuel a problem since, min fuel is 1min and max is 6min which is a problem at max as its easily to wing overload and die. Plus is buggy taking off and landing since the it uses a sled to land and the back wheel is buggy.

[shadain597]

I find Germany's planes to be a bit trickier to use than most people suggest. VS Japan, just know that they (usually) have a distinct advantage in turnfights, but that's about it. At equal BRs, you'll have far better firepower with greater effective range and should be faster in level flight. Japan's single-engine fighters are one of the few enemies that you can face head-on with limited risk, provided you fire a killing burst at ~800m-1km and start dodging before you hit 500m.

Confusingly, you'll lose turnfights against high-speed USA planes, so. . . don't try it? Despite the stat card on 109s listing them as having very competitive turn times I've lost nearly every turnfight I've been in, and not just against high-speed Americans; UK, USSR, French. . . Oh, and even the twin-engine USA fighters apparently retain more energy that 109s do in a prolonged turnfight, somehow.

[Waldkauz24]

Originally posted by 𝓖𝓸𝓭𝔃í𝓵𝓵𝓪:

lol german tanks and planes are literally over powered
Their aircrafts out climb everyone
They have a lot of miniguns and cannons on their planes.
Their only downside is the bad turning time.
Typical germany suffers post.

Oh really! Could you please make a video flying a DO 217 N-2 and how you out climb allied heavy fighters. Please enlighten us.
Or just show how you good you are managing this plane if enemys arn't so stupid to go on a headon.

[usesrnaiyme]

Originally posted by Gjeaneman:

I get outgunned, out manoeuvred, out climbed, they fly faster than me. How am I supposed to shoot anyone down if I just get chased around the map by some japanese fighter who is lvl 95 and has a better plane than me in every regard.

well. German planes are fun and all but I prefer the spitfires. Good climbing tip if your flying a 109 (f1+) than you can just hold WEP down and fly at a 20 degree angle (press V until your in the virtual cockpit) also never lose your speed when fighting British, japanese planes (or any p51) you want to keep up your speed and not engage any planes above you (unless protecting yourself) another tip is to use good bullet belts for your planes. I do reccomend switching to spitfires, the 109 can turn with about 21~ seconds while spitfires can get to 15 second turn time.... i hope that helps. if you need more help i can go more in depth

[usesrnaiyme]

Originally posted by 𝓖𝓸𝓭𝔃í𝓵𝓵𝓪:

lol german tanks and planes are literally over powered
Their aircrafts out climb everyone
They have a lot of miniguns and cannons on their planes.
Their only downside is the bad turning time.
Typical germany suffers post.

hmmm their tanks are not overpowered. with the comet i can pen the corner of a tiger with its sabot shells. I don't personally activly play germany but i can tell you that their tanks are only good at very specfic brs.
Now i can outclimb a spitfire with my spitfires.
And I agree that their turn time is bad but its not as bad as the americans (exept specific examples) and their guns are good.
one last thing is that this guy is just asking for tips and your being rude. he/shes proably new to this and your being toxic. if your going to disscutions you should be prepared to help. dont come here and be rude. I don't have any personal beef with you but I dislike when people come to disscusions just to be an ass.

[Kartosuro444]

dont- ever - turn- with- any- japanese- fighters- in- horizontal..... spitfire too

[usesrnaiyme]

Originally posted by Kartosuro444:

dont- ever - turn- with- any- japanese- fighters- in- horizontal..... spitfire too

ikr thats why everyone needs to play british planes. unlike tanks their planes are the most beginner friendly planes in the game (in my opinion)

[Kartosuro444]

Originally posted by Lunovus:

Uhm, most of the 109s are totally OP in AB.

If you got Minengeschoß, pretty much nothing outguns you.
Maybe in amount of lead or size of projectile, but not in killing power.

Japanese fighters can turn well, burn well (like paper drenched in petrol), have puny guns and are slow.

Most nations can't climb with the Germans.
Most nations are outgunned by the Germans.

Sorry, but if you do bad in German planes, I can only recommend learning the basics and then practice, practice, practice.

Read some guides in the official forum's air academy section and/or watch some YouTube videos on the basics of dogfighting in WT.

its kinda average in RB, but if someone have pretty knowledge regarding its mount, 109s can be pretty untouchable, especially at high alt when everyone down low and they want to kill the 109s.. especially the armaments arenot located in the wings basically, except the addition of gun pods

and every nation are outrun by german, except usa and sweden at high alt, usa has pretty good planes, but some, not all has the most intense mastering for it, as they has almost the same character as heavy german fighters

[usesrnaiyme]

Originally posted by Lunovus:

Uhm, most of the 109s are totally OP in AB.

If you got Minengeschoß, pretty much nothing outguns you.
Maybe in amount of lead or size of projectile, but not in killing power.

Japanese fighters can turn well, burn well (like paper drenched in petrol), have puny guns and are slow.

Most nations can't climb with the Germans.
Most nations are outgunned by the Germans.

Sorry, but if you do bad in German planes, I can only recommend learning the basics and then practice, practice, practice.

Read some guides in the official forum's air academy section and/or watch some YouTube videos on the basics of dogfighting in WT.

do you play AB or RB most

[Kartosuro444]

Originally posted by usesrnaiyme:

Originally posted by Kartosuro444:

dont- ever - turn- with- any- japanese- fighters- in- horizontal..... spitfire too

ikr thats why everyone needs to play british planes. unlike tanks their planes are the most beginner friendly planes in the game (in my opinion)

ja... their tanks pretty crappy with the reverse where ever nations has good reverse or either good armor plating and angling, british has good guns in a bad platform, no filler HE, hehe, but the turret pretty good in hull downs, dont forget most of them has neutral steering, cromwell chassis for example.

[Kartosuro444]

Originally posted by usesrnaiyme:

Originally posted by Lunovus:

Uhm, most of the 109s are totally OP in AB.

If you got Minengeschoß, pretty much nothing outguns you.
Maybe in amount of lead or size of projectile, but not in killing power.

Japanese fighters can turn well, burn well (like paper drenched in petrol), have puny guns and are slow.

Most nations can't climb with the Germans.
Most nations are outgunned by the Germans.

Sorry, but if you do bad in German planes, I can only recommend learning the basics and then practice, practice, practice.

Read some guides in the official forum's air academy section and/or watch some YouTube videos on the basics of dogfighting in WT.

do you play AB or RB most

Rb all the way.... AB you are head on, and some of planes cannot have advantages they deserve because of alt and alot of battle are inside a very huge furball

[Kartosuro444]

Originally posted by 𝓖𝓸𝓭𝔃í𝓵𝓵𝓪:

lol german tanks and planes are literally over powered
Their aircrafts out climb everyone
They have a lot of miniguns and cannons on their planes.
Their only downside is the bad turning time.
Typical germany suffers post.

early 109s has pretty good turns, and good gun laying too, pretty smooth and easy... well, the guns arent exceptionally well hitting and tends to ricochet, because you know.... MGs

[Lunovus]

Originally posted by usesrnaiyme:

do you play AB or RB most

AB