Is the MIG 15bis in Wrong BR?

[[𝔅𝔖𝔄] Bambus Björn]

IDK what to say i just suck in this plane and have no chance. In lucky games or when i get downtier i can make maybe 1 kill before i get shredded. In Uptier this thing is just useless... I climb i get shot by Harrier AAM. I Dogfight i get out maneuvered. If i sideclimb and energy fight i get killed anyways because half of the enemy team has either better climb rate or better highspeed. Is this on Purpose or is it just bad balance after the Patch.

[Futuristic Hexagon]

The bis was fine where it is, at least compared with the base variant. Same could be said for US Sabres.

Most of these later Korean War jets became largely really neat hangar queens for the time being (though you can take them into AB air assault to help spade them out and maybe earn some SL on the side.) It has worked well in the bis for me.

Most of the legacy 9.0 (now 8.7s) is in a truely strange place. Way too powerful to be going down to 8.3, but far too outmoded at 8.7.

[76561198315424152]

They need to look over the jet brs from bottom up really.

Why wouldnt they test these things out before putting em in, most who are this high up in the br's are customers so it should be a priority to set a good standard of proper balance up there...

give a damn about initial quick sales of fresh introduced vehicles if they ruin the balance so much that it wrecks the quality of the game. thats just bad business long term even if they make good money short term on it.

rather set a vehicle that is new and potentially too good at a higher br to not run over lower br/older planes.. and then balance it from the top down to see where they actually fit in he game if it's unsure. (And its been 2.5 years now of kills & assists in air not registering properly - prioritize)

Imo, once (optionally) equippiog aam's even the lowest ones should have a br bump. For example the japanese f86, 8.0/9.0 a/r

Should be 8.7/9.7 if equipped with aam's.

And at 8.7 arcade or 9.7 realistic, aam's should be rather rare.

Maybe 8.7 arcade is too low too really, even if it's only for a very few planes - & 9.0-9.7 somewhere is wwhere it should start for the very first if the aam's are researched & equipped.

Higher jets (some of) should be like 12.7 by now or around there...

[[QUAP] Time to Colonize]

Originally posted by DD Beutel Brot:

IDK what to say i just suck in this plane and have no chance. In lucky games or when i get downtier i can make maybe 1 kill before i get shredded. In Uptier this thing is just useless... I climb i get shot by Harrier AAM. I Dogfight i get out maneuvered. If i sideclimb and energy fight i get killed anyways because half of the enemy team has either better climb rate or better highspeed. Is this on Purpose or is it just bad balance after the Patch.

Bad Balance and the both Migs are support Aircraft. You basically just have to wait till someone doesnt pay attention and then swoop in to kill him. You have an absurdely good climbrate and acceleration thats where your strengths are, sadly any of the newer jets will just dunk on you. I admit its quite hard to get used to the playstyle of the Mig since a plane without rollrate is quite counterintuitive to me and i´m somewhat glad that i have them spaded now :D

[[𝔅𝔖𝔄] Bambus Björn]

Okay feels good to hear that iam not completly lost. MIG15bis is my 4th Jet so iam not very experienced with jets at all but i learned to fly the Me 262 and took that knowledge for the Mig but last games were just tilting. So i guess then ill go on AB with it at first until i hear about some balancing done in this BR. Thank you guys that really helped me and iam glad that noone insulted my poor knowledge or skill in the topic. :)

[[QUAP] Time to Colonize]

Originally posted by DD Beutel Brot:

Okay feels good to hear that iam not completly lost. MIG15bis is my 4th Jet so iam not very experienced with jets at all but i learned to fly the Me 262 and took that knowledge for the Mig but last games were just tilting. So i guess then ill go on AB with it at first until i hear about some balancing done in this BR. Thank you guys that really helped me and iam glad that noone insulted my poor knowledge or skill in the topic. :)

I sense you havent played that game for too long :D No offense i really adore you that you believe that GJ will balance Toptier, that mindest is really cute :D I guess you havent seen the new BR changes they want to make in that range? :D

[76561198315424152]

Originally posted by QUAP Time to Colonize:

Originally posted by DD Beutel Brot:

Okay feels good to hear that iam not completly lost. MIG15bis is my 4th Jet so iam not very experienced with jets at all but i learned to fly the Me 262 and took that knowledge for the Mig but last games were just tilting. So i guess then ill go on AB with it at first until i hear about some balancing done in this BR. Thank you guys that really helped me and iam glad that noone insulted my poor knowledge or skill in the topic. :)

I sense you havent played that game for too long :D No offense i really adore you that you believe that GJ will balance Toptier, that mindest is really cute :D I guess you havent seen the new BR changes they want to make in that range? :D

They might tho.. in x amount of years. Maybe tomorrow 😁

Odd thing is that it is in the upper ranks they are most likely to have paying customers, so it should be a priority to find proper brs for the aircraft up there...

At least arcade air works well overall battle rating wise) across the nations up to 6.7-8.0 or so


Same with the tanks of course and from what i saw the fairly odd and hasty introduction of helicopters. F'd some stuff up for a lot of tank players it seemed who had spent so much time & money getting to the higher ranks.

[[𝔅𝔖𝔄] Bambus Björn]

Originally posted by QUAP Time to Colonize:

Originally posted by DD Beutel Brot:

Okay feels good to hear that iam not completly lost. MIG15bis is my 4th Jet so iam not very experienced with jets at all but i learned to fly the Me 262 and took that knowledge for the Mig but last games were just tilting. So i guess then ill go on AB with it at first until i hear about some balancing done in this BR. Thank you guys that really helped me and iam glad that noone insulted my poor knowledge or skill in the topic. :)

I sense you havent played that game for too long :D No offense i really adore you that you believe that GJ will balance Toptier, that mindest is really cute :D I guess you havent seen the new BR changes they want to make in that range? :D

The sad thing about this is that i have 1000 h ingame but i play War Thunder since 2013 or 2014. So yeah to be fair the Tank BR 3-4 is balanced by now.