Why WW2 tanks are facing cold war and modern tanks?

[Flounker]

I feel my tiger2H is powerless compare with cold war tanks and modern tanks.Heavy tanks R for face to face fight due to their high front armor but slow movement and turret slewing speed.Now my tank got 1 shot dead by cold war light tank and I can't even penetrate light and medium cold war tanks front armor.I think matchmaking should make rework.WW2 era tanks should fight with WW2 not cold war and modern tanks.

[Mania]

Originally posted by George H.W. Bush:

Originally posted by ToXiC bAnDiT mAiN:

A Tiger 2 was meant to be slow and ♥♥♥♥ mobility with great armor and a great gun. It's two pro's get trampled on by APDS rounds and HEAT-FS rounds and tanks with 300-400mm of Armor

Every heavy tank suffers from this issue, I don't know why people relate it only to the Tiger II. Plus, what about the Tiger II in a downtier? It's a monster there, again, like every other heavy tank in downtiers.

Originally posted by Angelus Mortis:

Absolutely disagree. Service dates has a lot to do with it. Technology is always superior at later dates. Especially decades ahead such as the T32 vs M60 example above.

Like how the PT-76 is at 5.3 despite being from the 1950's?

Then there needs to be some sort of balance. Maybe limit the amount of heavy tanks in a game because the Tiger II's are absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in an uptier. The T29 I was able to do some amount of damage and progressed relatively quickly, but with the Tiger it forced me to spend money on convertible RP just to progress to the Bmp and Leo 1

[83athom]

Originally posted by ToXiC bAnDiT mAiN:

Originally posted by George H.W. Bush:

Every heavy tank suffers from this issue, I don't know why people relate it only to the Tiger II. Plus, what about the Tiger II in a downtier? It's a monster there, again, like every other heavy tank in downtiers.



Like how the PT-76 is at 5.3 despite being from the 1950's?

Then there needs to be some sort of balance. Maybe limit the amount of heavy tanks in a game because the Tiger II's are absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in an uptier. The T29 I was able to do some amount of damage and progressed relatively quickly, but with the Tiger it forced me to spend money on convertible RP just to progress to the Bmp and Leo 1

Which is funny because the T29 is literally a direct Tiger II equivalent but at a higher BR.

[Mania]

Originally posted by 83athom:

Originally posted by ToXiC bAnDiT mAiN:

Then there needs to be some sort of balance. Maybe limit the amount of heavy tanks in a game because the Tiger II's are absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in an uptier. The T29 I was able to do some amount of damage and progressed relatively quickly, but with the Tiger it forced me to spend money on convertible RP just to progress to the Bmp and Leo 1

Which is funny because the T29 is literally a direct Tiger II equivalent but at a higher BR.

Not really it has a much better gun

[83athom]

Originally posted by ToXiC bAnDiT mAiN:

Originally posted by 83athom:

Which is funny because the T29 is literally a direct Tiger II equivalent but at a higher BR.

Not really it has a much better gun

250mm pen APHE every 13 seconds at 900m/s
vs
240mm pen APHE every 7 seconds at 1000m/s

Want take a guess at which is the Tiger and which is the T29?

[G19]

Originally posted by Flounker:

I feel my tiger2H is powerless compare with cold war tanks and modern tanks.Heavy tanks R for face to face fight due to their high front armor but slow movement and turret slewing speed.Now my tank got 1 shot dead by cold war light tank and I can't even penetrate light and medium cold war tanks front armor.I think matchmaking should make rework.WW2 era tanks should fight with WW2 not cold war and modern tanks.

Atleast the short-barreled panzer IVs and Panzer 38Ts are not fighting KV-1s, KV-2s, and T-34s

[HansGruber]

It's because all game modes of this arcade game are an arcade game. "Space Invaders" and "Asteroids" has as much realism as Gajoob Thunder.

The truth is that the Tiger II has to face more modern tanks because Gajoob doesn't know how to simulate your Tiger II working in a platoon of four tanks, facing enemy air superiority, and T-34/76/57/85s that come in literal WAVES because the reds have you totally outnumbered.

Originally posted by analyzerlx:

Atleast the short-barreled panzer IVs and Panzer 38Ts are not fighting KV-1s, KV-2s, and T-34s

That would actually be reasonable if they simulated, well, anything.

The short barrel Panzer III and IV, and Panzer 38t's that had to fight the KV-1, KV-2, and T-34s had SOME, though few, advantages.

The game simulates the thin armor of those early German tanks. It simulates the relative impotency of their cannons. What it does NOT simulate are the lack of radios among the Russian tanks, and the lack of situational awareness that the Soviet tanks often suffered. They lacked vision cupolas, they lacked dedicated commanders, etc.

If all of that was done, then it might be possible to skillfully sneak your Panzer IVD/E/F or IIIF/G/H/J into a good firing position and smack them in the side. But with team spotting, no restrictions to vision, etc, that gets a lot more tricky.

[HansGruber]

Originally posted by Keith:

Wouldnt mind seeing a true "hardcore sim" mode honestly.

But it'd take way, way to much work, money and talent for Gaijin to even consider it. Such a mode is far beyond Gaijins ability as a studio.

Here, take another £50 premium instead!

I wouldn't mind it either, but something like that would require competent AI and a totally different player base, one capable of actually coordinating as a group.

Not many people want a tank sim so realistic that your job for the next half hour might be "Sit here in these bushes and see if anybody comes by", knowing full well that nobody might ever come.

Admittedly, in the past, other games have had to make concessions. There was an old Windows 95 era abandonware tank sim I played, I don't recall the title, but I do remember that it simulated the Battle of the Bulge from either side. It had a section that explained that because the terrain engine was too simple, there was no smoke, no air cover, etc, in order to make the experience of playing as an American tanker somewhat bearable, the player and his platoon would always be M4A3E2 "Jumbo" Shermans.

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Originally posted by Zindai:

OP is probably a troll, this has gone over too many times

Any statement you don’t like is a troll

[Mechanicu5]

In my experience, tiger 2 would survive all HEATFS from american tanks around its BR. I even experienced multiple times HEATFS into the tigers 2 turret (side) and still have zero effect.