Why WW2 tanks are facing cold war and modern tanks?

[Flounker]

I feel my tiger2H is powerless compare with cold war tanks and modern tanks.Heavy tanks R for face to face fight due to their high front armor but slow movement and turret slewing speed.Now my tank got 1 shot dead by cold war light tank and I can't even penetrate light and medium cold war tanks front armor.I think matchmaking should make rework.WW2 era tanks should fight with WW2 not cold war and modern tanks.

[hi_1002]

You cannot face modern tanks at 6.7 and your gun can penetrate many tanks of the cold war. Tiger 2s and maus would dominate if they only faced world war 2.

[boingo]

Originally posted by hi_1002:

You cannot face modern tanks at 6.7 and your gun can penetrate many tanks of the cold war. Tiger 2s and maus would dominate if they only faced world war 2.

Tiger 2H is 6.7
BMP-1 is 7.3
T-54 7.3
Object 120 7.3
IS-6 7.3
In my experience with the Tiger2(either one) getting uptiered to 7.3 is not very uncommon, and majority of 7.3 vehicles have APDS or HEAT-FS which completely demolishes Tiger2 armor and are often more maneuverable then german heavys
EDIT: They are not "Modern" tanks but they are significantly better then late war german heavys

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by boingo:

Originally posted by hi_1002:

You cannot face modern tanks at 6.7 and your gun can penetrate many tanks of the cold war. Tiger 2s and maus would dominate if they only faced world war 2.

Tiger 2H is 6.7
BMP-1 is 7.3
T-54 7.3
Object 120 7.3
IS-6 7.3
In my experience with the Tiger2(either one) getting uptiered to 7.3 is not very uncommon, and majority of 7.3 vehicles have APDS or HEAT-FS which completely demolishes Tiger2 armor and are often more maneuverable then german heavys
EDIT: They are not "Modern" tanks but they are significantly better then late war german heavys

The IS-6 isn't postwar, it was produced and tested in 1944 before development ceased in 1945 and it has the same rounds as the IS-2, albeit with a faster reload.

Rather than lowering BRs, I think we need to start raising them. Decompress the BRs. BMP and Object 120 are ridiculous at 7.3, especially when you consider the Chinese version has a tandem warhead ATGM with 900mm of pen yet its at the same BR. If the BRs were expanded out to say 12 we could push these vehicles higher without compromising their performance.

[hsf_]

I've recently got to the Tiger II variants on the German tree, I quite enjoy them.

They are slow and heavy but I do well with them. I agree that heatfs does absolutely murder them, but I rarely find myself being 1 shotted.

[ErickaUnlimited]

Originally posted by Flounker:

Why WW2 tanks are facing cold war and modern tanks?

Tanks are match based on their combat ability, not year of service.

[hi_1002]

Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

Originally posted by Flounker:

Why WW2 tanks are facing cold war and modern tanks?

Tanks are match based on their combat ability, not year of service.

Although date of vehicle usually effects its ability there are some exceptions though such as the German heavies, EBRs and R3.

[ErickaUnlimited]

Originally posted by hi_1002:

Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

Tanks are match based on their combat ability, not year of service.

Although date of vehicle usually effects its ability there are some exceptions though such as the German heavies, EBRs and R3.

Not really. I never understood why people couldn't perform well in uptiered german heavies. The EBR and R3 were never hard to deal with either, but I suppose that's just my opinion.

[G19]

Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

Originally posted by hi_1002:

Although date of vehicle usually effects its ability there are some exceptions though such as the German heavies, EBRs and R3.

Not really. I never understood why people couldn't perform well in uptiered german heavies. The EBR and R3 were never hard to deal with either, but I suppose that's just my opinion.

The R3's armor is so weak that all you need are a few .50 cal bullets. The EBR is slightly more difficult since it has the autoloader, making shooting the loader pointless, as it will usually just shoot right after you shoot. But if you can get a hit on the center you can destroy it with any APHE shell.

[Boosk]

To be fair its not only a German problem but for all heavys at 6.7

[hi_1002]

Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

Originally posted by hi_1002:

Although date of vehicle usually effects its ability there are some exceptions though such as the German heavies, EBRs and R3.

Not really. I never understood why people couldn't perform well in uptiered german heavies. The EBR and R3 were never hard to deal with either, but I suppose that's just my opinion.

That is why I named them as exceptions.

[Blakk7]

They dont see to have any idea what the word REALISTIC means..Maybe its just me but for example ANYTHING that says 1954 on the name should not be anywhere near 1944 or 1945 tanks.. silly and cartoonish and has a real fake arcade feel..not realistic..

[↯Zindy⛦]

OP is probably a troll, this has gone over too many times

[Pethy]

The tiger2 gets absolutly stomped by T-54s, I know since I played both. The T-54 is faster has a better gun, stronger armor and a lower profile.

[BEEP!]

I feel like there should be a decompress in the BR have a max BR at like 11.7 or 12 or something like such.
I also feel that there should be something like a gap in the BR or something along those lines or a WW2 era and a modern era research line separate the 2 era's into different match making because WT advertisement is 80% to 90% modern vehicles but when you get into the game it's like a solid year to get to such vehicles.
But hay that what I think that should be done but we all know that will never happen because gijin will never do something that could make Q time longer even if it helps the over all game they littlery said decompressing is impossible because it would make Q times to long but we all know that's bull.

[shadain597]

Originally posted by Blakk7:

They dont see to have any idea what the word REALISTIC means..Maybe its just me but for example ANYTHING that says 1954 on the name should not be anywhere near 1944 or 1945 tanks.. silly and cartoonish and has a real fake arcade feel..not realistic..

Ground Sim ain't a sim either. In any case, I think if you look around you'll find several examples of older or outdated weapons/equipment being used in conflicts.