Radkampfwagen 90

[Kiwoeoe]

Sooo.. the driver is blind... he cant look outside.. how is he able to drive ?

[Лисичка]

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

[Kiwoeoe]

Originally posted by 红客:

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

1. yeah i know but they could have added view ports or View cams
2.yeah well they could have added view cams to the model

[Лисичка]

Originally posted by Kiwoeoe:

Originally posted by 红客:

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

1. yeah i know but they could have added view ports or View cams
2.yeah well they could have added view cams to the model

It is really weird though, I do agree with that.

[SwooshBear]

Originally posted by 红客:

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

Why did they add another prototype to Germany after removing a ton?

[Лисичка]

Originally posted by PLeaSe HeLp:

Originally posted by 红客:

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

Why did they add another prototype to Germany after removing a ton?

Gaijin logic makes no sense, so I have no idea.

[Shard]

Originally posted by PLeaSe HeLp:

Originally posted by 红客:

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

Why did they add another prototype to Germany after removing a ton?

A bunch of German fantasy tanks + Maus get removed: "How dare they!"

Actually existing tanks get added: "How dare they!"

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by PLeaSe HeLp:

Originally posted by 红客:

So this is my educated guess on this. 1.) probably can not, because the ACTUAL tank was just a prototype, and not the finished product. So theres that.
2.) judging from time period, it could be a computer like system, where the driver is looking through a screen, and not a port like 95% of tanks, and APCs

Why did they add another prototype to Germany after removing a ton?

Panther II, Tiger II 105 and Coelian were not "prototypes", they never existed in the first place. Maybe you could make an argument for the Coelian as a mockup turret was built but Germany has enough SPAA, most of which is extremely effective.

The Maus was hidden for other reasons.

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by PLeaSe HeLp:

Why did they add another prototype to Germany after removing a ton?

Panther II, Tiger II 105 and Coelian were not "prototypes", they never existed in the first place. Maybe you could make an argument for the Coelian as a mockup turret was built but Germany has enough SPAA, most of which is extremely effective.

The Maus was hidden for other reasons.

but they added the ostwind 2 in place of the coelian

[Oberst Klink]

From the Panther II has existed a running prototype carriage and a model for the turret, there is really no difference to the Radkampfwagen 90 prototype, which too is only the carriage with a non functional turret or the Coelian with its model turret. So it really makes absolutely no sense putting it ingame. There are enough german tanks the game still needs, the Marder and the Puma for example, or the Wiesel TOW or TPZ Fuchs MILAN.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by 7. Panzer-Division:

From the Panther II has existed a running prototype carriage and a model for the turret, there is really no difference to the Radkampfwagen 90 prototype, which too is only the carriage with a non functional turret or the Coelian with its model turret. So it really makes absolutely no sense putting it ingame. There are enough german tanks the game still needs, the Marder and the Puma for example, or the Wiesel TOW or TPZ Fuchs MILAN.

The II we got ingame was entirely fictional. The real Panther II was going to mount the 75mm like the rest but I believe it was canned when the Germans realized they could just add skirts to existing Panthers to stop Soviet 14.5 rifles rather than making an entirely new hull. The long 88 couldn't even fit in the turret.

[Shard]

Originally posted by 7. Panzer-Division:

From the Panther II has existed a running prototype carriage and a model for the turret, there is really no difference to the Radkampfwagen 90 prototype, which too is only the carriage with a non functional turret or the Coelian with its model turret. So it really makes absolutely no sense putting it ingame. There are enough german tanks the game still needs, the Marder and the Puma for example, or the Wiesel TOW or TPZ Fuchs MILAN.

Nope. The one in game was pure magic.

1. The 88mm proposal wasn't even for the Panther 2. It was for the Panther G. It was scrapped since they decided that they wouldn't need the bigger gun, besides they would have had to design a new turret. In game they shrunk down the breech so it can fit in the turret (which wasn't even the right one). It's only half as big in the game. I don't think you need an explanation of how impossible that is.

2. The increased side armour wasn't even built a single time, because they realized it wasn't needed if they just mounted the Seitenschürzen on the Panther. which they obviously did.

3. The Schmalturm was designed after they scrapped the whole idea of the Panther 2. So even if they actually built one, it wouldn't have had that turret.

4. The night vision part is another seperate proposal.

So, the thing in game wasn't even a paper tank. It was pure fiction. Get over it.

[Oberst Klink]

Yes that´s true, but there are some more prototype tanks with non working gun/turret experiments. The T34-100 did not work in reality too but it does ingame. But the carriage exists that is my point and nobody knows how the Leopard 1A3 turret would have worked on the Radpanzer 90 so the whole system is fictional too.
They stopped the Panther II bc the sideskirts were good enough for protection and the other benefits of the Panther II were put in the Panther G seriers.

[Oberst Klink]

Originally posted by Shard:

Originally posted by 7. Panzer-Division:

From the Panther II has existed a running prototype carriage and a model for the turret, there is really no difference to the Radkampfwagen 90 prototype, which too is only the carriage with a non functional turret or the Coelian with its model turret. So it really makes absolutely no sense putting it ingame. There are enough german tanks the game still needs, the Marder and the Puma for example, or the Wiesel TOW or TPZ Fuchs MILAN.

Nope. The one in game was pure magic.

1. The 88mm proposal wasn't even for the Panther 2. It was for the Panther G. It was scrapped since they decided that they wouldn't need the bigger gun, besides they would have had to design a new turret. In game they shrunk down the breech so it can fit in the turret (which wasn't even the right one). It's only half as big in the game. I don't think you need an explanation of how impossible that is.

2. The increased side armour wasn't even built a single time, because they realized it wasn't needed if they just mounted the Seitenschürzen on the Panther. which they obviously did.

3. The Schmalturm was designed after they scrapped the whole idea of the Panther 2. So even if they actually built one, it wouldn't have had that turret.

4. The night vision part is another seperate proposal.

So, the thing in game wasn't even a paper tank. It was pure fiction. Get over it.

Yes the turret has been fictional but the carriage has been produced as a working prototype, the US has stolen it after war and now it is there in a museum and has been tested.
From my side i would be happy, if there would be zero prototypes from every nation ingame and only tanks that has seen service.

[Shard]

Originally posted by 7. Panzer-Division:

Yes that´s true, but there are some more prototype tanks with non working gun/turret experiments. The T34-100 did not work in reality too but it does ingame. But the carriage exists that is my point and nobody knows how the Leopard 1A3 turret would have worked on the Radpanzer 90 so the whole system is fictional too.
They stopped the Panther II bc the sideskirts were good enough for protection and the other benefits of the Panther II were put in the Panther G seriers.

Actually, there were two variants of the T-34-100. The first one had the 100mm D-10-34 gun. That one didn't work. However, they made a new gun with less recoil, the LB-1, which didn't damage the turret ring. That's the one in game. So no problems there.

I've heard multiple times that the T-44-122 wouldn't work, but I honestly struggle to find sources for that.