Move EBR 1954 back to 5.7

[CBRattler13]

At 6.0, the EBR is mostly useless. It was better fit for the 5.7 BR where it should have been all along. This vehicle is super rare now compared to when it was first introduced. The M4A1 FL10 and M4A4 SA50 both have more armor, and the same ammo. The M4A1 even has the same auto-loader system. But these two tanks are at 5.0. Why should the EBR be up-tiered to the point of uselessness while two tanks with the exact same weapon stay at 5.0? Its speed perhaps? But to get this speed, the tanks armor is so thin to the point that any Rank II vehicle could kill it with ease. The EBR should be moved back to 5.7.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

And yet I'm here being fine with the EBR killing Tigers, Panthers and even the a premium KV Captured German, Sherman's Variant and the likes with ease... Seems like you didn't adapt to the new environment.

[Suthirak_D42]

Yesterday

I found an EBR kill my whole team of cats.(some from my teammate skill, they don't gangbanged him when still outnumber.

[Suthirak_D42]

Originally posted by PFC Demigo 29ID:

And yet I'm here being fine with the EBR killing Tigers, Panthers and even the a premium KV Captured German, Sherman's Variant and the likes with ease... Seems like you didn't adapt to the new environment.

Only thing on Tiger that EBR can't pen is its eyehole.

[DarthBong420]

No move it to 8

[Akagi]

The EBR has the same problems as every armored car/ wheeled tank: They (should) have a very decent speed that can easily get them to flanking positions or even behond the enemy lines. Additionally to that, the EBR has the advantagr of a 5 second autoloader, which is just too short for some players to react.

While it got harder and harder for the EBR to kill its enemies frontally it can just hide somewhere and then shoot at the sides of the enemy. The same thing goes with the Sd.Kfz. 234/2: It basically has the potential to easily flank the majority of ww2 tanks (and some mbts of course), but I guess the difference between it and the EBR is that it's German.

Personally I don't mind the EBR going up but due to the fact Gaijin screwed up its traction and speed (because the steel wheels are obviously just there for cosmetic purposes) I stopped playing it at some point

[Mac]

I find "discussions" like this very curious where multiple people seem to defend a certain vehicle as being "extremely" good yet I rarely ever encounter said vehicle in matches even though I do play a lot of 5.0 BR - 6.0 BR lineups.

If the vehicle really is as good as some of you claim then how come barely anyone is playing it at least from what I am seeing? Players tend to gravitate towards overperforming vehicles. For example when the Jagdpanther was lowered to 6.0 BR I immediately saw a huge increase in players using it.

The reason can't be that few players own the vehicle because when it started out at 4.7 BR I saw it being used a lot. Nowadays rarely so even though those same players must still be around and still own the vehicle.

In my opinion the best indicator for whether a vehicle is overtiered / undertiered is to look at whether people actually bother to play it. An "extremely" good vehicle that is rarely used seems like an unlikely thing.

A few weeks ago I encountered an EBR 1954 in my Panther and knocked it out with my MG (a bug that has since been fixed because it had a legit hole in its turret armor that didn't even protect it from MG fire). Yesterday I encountered an EBR 1954 and knocked it out with a fighter plane from above. Apart from that I don't even remember having encountered any EBRs in the recent weeks. So that's two encounters in what was probably a couple of dozen games in my experience... both of which ended very fatally for the EBR to say the least.

[-reno-FR-]

Originally posted by CBRattler13:

At 6.0, the EBR is mostly useless. It was better fit for the 5.7 BR where it should have been all along. This vehicle is super rare now compared to when it was first introduced. The M4A1 FL10 and M4A4 SA50 both have more armor, and the same ammo. The M4A1 even has the same auto-loader system. But these two tanks are at 5.0. Why should the EBR be up-tiered to the point of uselessness while two tanks with the exact same weapon stay at 5.0? Its speed perhaps? But to get this speed, the tanks armor is so thin to the point that any Rank II vehicle could kill it with ease. The EBR should be moved back to 5.7.

I can understand your point of view, but I'm not sharing it at 100%.

I do play EBR 1954 even with a line up of 8.0 (so I can face stuffs from 7.0 to 9.0) and I assure you that there are ennemies who cry a lot even at those BR when I frag them.
I don't say it is "easy", but it's just a matter of adaptation.

And for now, we can't do anything about its BR, so I do with what I have : adaptation.