Custom skins visible for team

[N1thecaptain]

They removed the ability for other players to see your custom skin to prevent people from abusing it, since making your tank so bright that it's impossible to look at it or making your plane entirely invisible is not fair in the slightest.

But what if they made it so teammates can see your custom skin, because being the only one who can see it kind of defeats the point, and this way it can't be abused.

They could also add in an option to disable all fictional skins, or disable all skins in general, or disable fictional and semi-historical skins, so people who don't want to see a bunch of GuP weebs driving around don't have to, or rather, don't have to know that they're GuP weebs.

Thoughts? (Btw pls stay polite, thx)

[Mad_Scirim]

Custom skins retrieved on the internet are not visible because you would need everyone to download that skin, just to see you. And they won't even know they are downloading something, that could be a problem.

Also, there is already an option to enable/disable fictional skins in WarThunder. I've enabled it and there aren't much impact since the majority is just not doing any customisation on their tank, only choosing a base camo, putting a couple of bushes if they paid for them and they are done.

[BlueBomber]

Wait isnt custom skin on any games is always only visible to you only since only you have the files, different from market/ingame skins where the files are downloaded on everyone?

[Fal]

we already have the option to not show camo and decals that are not historical the only thing missing is the custom skins but i doubt gaijin will ever implement something like that at least not for free, i'm still waiting for clean default camos because even with condition at 100% you still see mud and rust in some tanks

[N1thecaptain]

Originally posted by Mad_Scirim:

Custom skins retrieved on the internet are not visible because you would need everyone to download that skin, just to see you. And they won't even know they are downloading something, that could be a problem.

Also, there is already an option to enable/disable fictional skins in WarThunder. I've enabled it and there aren't much impact since the majority is just not doing any customisation on their tank, only choosing a base camo, putting a couple of bushes if they paid for them and they are done.

Originally posted by BlueBomber:

Wait isnt custom skin on any games is always only visible to you only since only you have the files, different from market/ingame skins where the files are downloaded on everyone?

I was told by multiple people that the reason I listed was the reason no one can see your skin. I also can't see the custom skins I used and have downloaded and selected for my vehicle if I spectate myself in a replay. But I'm gonna check to make sure I'm not being an idiot again

[N1thecaptain]

Originally posted by Mad_Scirim:

Custom skins retrieved on the internet are not visible because you would need everyone to download that skin, just to see you. And they won't even know they are downloading something, that could be a problem.

Also, there is already an option to enable/disable fictional skins in WarThunder. I've enabled it and there aren't much impact since the majority is just not doing any customisation on their tank, only choosing a base camo, putting a couple of bushes if they paid for them and they are done.

Originally posted by BlueBomber:

Wait isnt custom skin on any games is always only visible to you only since only you have the files, different from market/ingame skins where the files are downloaded on everyone?

Turns out you two were right and I'm just dumb. This defeats the entire point of this thread. Crap

[Illusionyary]

Userskins are client side only, if you enable fictional content in the options you'll see some whacky market skins which are visible to all, assuming they have their settings set to fictional.

[pike]

it's multiplayer , no custom skins , too great a chance to use them as cheats , play the game and enjoy as it is

[KokkoJustus]

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

Originally posted by Mad_Scirim:

Custom skins retrieved on the internet are not visible because you would need everyone to download that skin, just to see you. And they won't even know they are downloading something, that could be a problem.

Also, there is already an option to enable/disable fictional skins in WarThunder. I've enabled it and there aren't much impact since the majority is just not doing any customisation on their tank, only choosing a base camo, putting a couple of bushes if they paid for them and they are done.

Originally posted by BlueBomber:

Wait isnt custom skin on any games is always only visible to you only since only you have the files, different from market/ingame skins where the files are downloaded on everyone?

I was told by multiple people that the reason I listed was the reason no one can see your skin. I also can't see the custom skins I used and have downloaded and selected for my vehicle if I spectate myself in a replay.

Thats because server replays arent clientside

[N1thecaptain]

Originally posted by pike:

it's multiplayer , no custom skins , too great a chance to use them as cheats , play the game and enjoy as it is

That's what I stated in the post, my solution to that was making them visible for teammates only, not for enemy players

Originally posted by KokkoJustus:

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

I was told by multiple people that the reason I listed was the reason no one can see your skin. I also can't see the custom skins I used and have downloaded and selected for my vehicle if I spectate myself in a replay.

Thats because server replays arent clientside

Thought as much, which further proves that I am dumb

[-reno-FR-]

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

Originally posted by pike:

it's multiplayer , no custom skins , too great a chance to use them as cheats , play the game and enjoy as it is

That's what I stated in the post, my solution to that was making them visible for teammates only, not for enemy players

Even if it would have been possible, personnally I'm against that idea.

When I play a game, I don't want to see a pink + yellow + rainbow camo on any teammate tank.
Nothing would be better to destroy the inmersion ingame.

[N1thecaptain]

Originally posted by -reno-FR-:

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

That's what I stated in the post, my solution to that was making them visible for teammates only, not for enemy players

Even if it would have been possible, personnally I'm against that idea.

When I play a game, I don't want to see a pink + yellow + rainbow camo on any teammate tank.
Nothing would be better to destroy the inmersion ingame.

Which is why I said it would be good if players could turn fictional or semi-historical skins off in the post.

[AttackerCat]

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

They removed the ability for other players to see your custom skin to prevent people from abusing it, since making your tank so bright that it's impossible to look at it or making your plane entirely invisible is not fair in the slightest.

To be 100% real, it was never an ability in the first place. You can see your own custom skin on someone else's vehicle, but that is only because that skin is on your client.

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

But what if they made it so teammates can see your custom skin, because being the only one who can see it kind of defeats the point, and this way it can't be abused.

It still can, limiting the number of people who can see it doesn't make it any less likely to be abused.
What if people make 8k skin files that the client has to load for everyone in the game? Basically bricking people with slower connections and making them wait longer to load in?
Imagine loading in that much information on one vehicle besides if you had 16 people on your team with custom files.
Or what if someone's custom skin has nudity, or bad symbolism on it? Sure you could make a report function for it, but that you've also got to put people in charge of handling everything having to do with custom files. That's kind of what War Thunder Live already does, but extending that to the entire game would be a massive undertaking.

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

They could also add in an option to disable all fictional skins, or disable all skins in general, or disable fictional and semi-historical skins, so people who don't want to see a bunch of GuP weebs driving around don't have to, or rather, don't have to know that they're GuP weebs.

In order for this, each and every skin will need a tag of what category it fits in, and someone to review each and every skin to make sure it's not labelled incorrectly. That's a lot of staff/manpower. It'd be like putting someone on DeviantArt and saying "okay every artwork that's posted we need to to tag it and make sure it doesn't break any rules."
Seems like an insurmountable task imo.

While I agree that there are some amazingly talented people out there making camos, the current system works just fine to ensure that abuse of it is limited with all of the international laws around (plus, common decency).

[Willo]

I agree completely

[Shillelagh]

Originally posted by -reno-FR-:

Originally posted by N1thecaptain:

That's what I stated in the post, my solution to that was making them visible for teammates only, not for enemy players

Even if it would have been possible, personnally I'm against that idea.

When I play a game, I don't want to see a pink + yellow + rainbow camo on any teammate tank.
Nothing would be better to destroy the inmersion ingame.

HAHA, IMMERSION IN WT? YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT IMMERSION.