Why are aircraft in ground battles`?

[lwfw]

Why are aircraft in ground battles? It's called "Ground Battles" not "Mixed Battles".

[BANE]

Yupp, +1

[Plague91]

my thoughts exactly, i hate hearing a 1k bomb i know im dead..

[TankerGrizz]

Just whip out anti air

[LordBUM]

this has been complained about time and time again when will you people learn that planes are never leaving ground battles. no matter how many threads are started nothing will change yes there are planes with big bombs so what.

just move on from this childish bs and accept ground battles for what they are and have you never taken into account how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ allied teams would be without cas?. i'm sorry but 'i'm tired of seeing threads like this every week just stop.

and i don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about getting killed by a bomb you no why? because A my team was lacking spaag's and B i made a mistake the allowed the plane to single me out.
oh and do you even play cas? do you understand that its actually not that easy to spot a tank on the ground. when your flying a plane tanks become no more then tiny specks on the ground where you have to be both looking right at it and flying low to even find the tank.

just please give up on these pointless threads the do nothing for you your sanity and the community as a whole.

[gegejake]

Originally posted by LordBUM:

this has been complained about time and time again when will you people learn that planes are never leaving ground battles. no matter how many threads are started nothing will change yes there are planes with big bombs so what.

just move on from this childish bs and accept ground battles for what they are and have you never taken into account how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ allied teams would be without cas?. i'm sorry but 'i'm tired of seeing threads like this every week just stop.

and i don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about getting killed by a bomb you no why? because A my team was lacking spaag's and B i made a mistake the allowed the plane to single me out.
oh and do you even play cas? do you understand that its actually not that easy to spot a tank on the ground. when your flying a plane tanks become no more then tiny specks on the ground where you have to be both looking right at it and flying low to even find the tank.

just please give up on these pointless threads the do nothing for you your sanity and the community as a whole.

tl;dr for the brainlets out there
A) Allied teams rely on cas to be mor balanced
B) Cas is often harder than drop bomb, get kill (although imo there are a few exceptions)
C) It is often team's fault for lacking spaa's
D) Allowing yourself to be exposed in the open is your own fault, CAS is only taking advantage of your mistakes if you are overexposed

[Jaes]

Originally posted by gegejake:

Originally posted by LordBUM:

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tl;dr for the brainlets out there
A) Allied teams rely on cas to be mor balanced
B) Cas is often harder than drop bomb, get kill (although imo there are a few exceptions)
C) It is often team's fault for lacking spaa's
D) Allowing yourself to be exposed in the open is your own fault, CAS is only taking advantage of your mistakes if you are overexposed

+1 I can count on one hand how many times I've died to a CAS strike in the last month. Be dumb, die dumb.

[Kartosuro444]

Originally posted by Jaes:

Originally posted by gegejake:

tl;dr for the brainlets out there
A) Allied teams rely on cas to be mor balanced
B) Cas is often harder than drop bomb, get kill (although imo there are a few exceptions)
C) It is often team's fault for lacking spaa's
D) Allowing yourself to be exposed in the open is your own fault, CAS is only taking advantage of your mistakes if you are overexposed

+1 I can count on one hand how many times I've died to a CAS strike in the last month. Be dumb, die dumb.

use the right camo for the right map also works well

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by okay:

Why are aircraft in ground battles? It's called "Ground Battles" not "Mixed Battles".

correction, to completely contradict your point in gaijin's devblogs your 'ground mode' is literally referred to as 'mixed battles' or 'combined battles'. Combined arms has and always will be a design feature and goal of warthunder, non mixed modes have been categorically and frequently stated to not even be considered

if you have complaints focus your efforts towards making suggestions that dont undermine gaijins vision of the game, mechanic changes etc. whining about removing an entire feature is just a waste of everyones time

[calembredaine]

because such was the snail's will.

not even a need to justify by the title, really. it is basically because gaijin wanted planes whenever tanks fight.

[N1thecaptain]

Originally posted by gegejake:

Originally posted by LordBUM:

this has been complained about time and time again when will you people learn that planes are never leaving ground battles. no matter how many threads are started nothing will change yes there are planes with big bombs so what.

just move on from this childish bs and accept ground battles for what they are and have you never taken into account how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ allied teams would be without cas?. i'm sorry but 'i'm tired of seeing threads like this every week just stop.

and i don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about getting killed by a bomb you no why? because A my team was lacking spaag's and B i made a mistake the allowed the plane to single me out.
oh and do you even play cas? do you understand that its actually not that easy to spot a tank on the ground. when your flying a plane tanks become no more then tiny specks on the ground where you have to be both looking right at it and flying low to even find the tank.

just please give up on these pointless threads the do nothing for you your sanity and the community as a whole.

tl;dr for the brainlets out there
A) Allied teams rely on cas to be mor balanced
B) Cas is often harder than drop bomb, get kill (although imo there are a few exceptions)
C) It is often team's fault for lacking spaa's
D) Allowing yourself to be exposed in the open is your own fault, CAS is only taking advantage of your mistakes if you are overexposed

A: they should balance Allied tanks so this shouldn't be necessary
B: There are indeed quite a few exceptions, and of course no one chooses the easiest way to get a kill, that's why you see so many G.91's and P-47's. Oh wait.
C: Do you enjoy playing SPAA? If you encounter an enemy with any kind of armour frontally, you're dead. If no aircraft spawn, you're just sitting there looking up for 15 minutes. If too many planes spawn, you're probably the only one in SPAA (I know I usually am) so you have to try and singlehandedly kill 3 or 4 (maybe more) planes all hellbent on killing you so they can CAS peacefully without having to worry about returnfire that will actually have a decent chance of damaging them
D: Y'know what, I agree with this one. Sometimes I see people sitting in the middle of an open field, then they complain about CAS when a bomb inevitably finds them.

TL;DR for people that call others brainlets simply because they have a different opinion about a matter: CAS is pretty annoying at times, but it's not the most OP thing in the game, if we ignore a certain Russian shark that's in almost every top tier battle. A ground only mode would be fun, but it is indeed unlikely we will ever get it

[burg4401]

planes are fine, learn or don't, totally up to you.

if you don't, then I expect to see a lot more crying as I'm sure the game is not going to change into a WoT clone for you.

the quickest way to kill this game would be to change it to WoT, you can't compete with that monster, you have to do something different.

combined arms, read the wiki, the description of the game is in there.

you also knew what the game was when you started, do you really think it will change for you?

do you play every game and demand it change for you?

don't bother answering, I think we all know the answer, very strange that you think it will change for you........very strange.

[N1thecaptain]

Originally posted by burg4401:

planes are fine, learn or don't, totally up to you.

if you don't, then I expect to see a lot more crying as I'm sure the game is not going to change into a WoT clone for you.

the quickest way to kill this game would be to change it to WoT, you can't compete with that monster, you have to do something different.

combined arms, read the wiki, the description of the game is in there.

you also knew what the game was when you started, do you really think it will change for you?

do you play every game and demand it change for you?

don't bother answering, I think we all know the answer, very strange that you think it will change for you........very strange.

It would be a WoT clone how? Does WoT have air battles? Or naval battles? Realistic mode? Sim? Multiple spawns per battle? Any realism in general, besides the concepts of armour thickness and shell penetration? And every game has people asking for something to be changed, there's no way to make everyone happy, but if I had 1 cent for every single thread that popped up about this specific topic, I would be able to buy half the war thunder community a KA-50. That seems to me like a subtle hint that maybe, just maybe, there might be an issue here

[CH13F]

i think i kinda will write and copy/paste some sorta manifesto aganist this spam about CAS. one of these days.

[Combatant ezoteric nivel maxim]

Originally posted by Jaes:

Originally posted by gegejake:

tl;dr for the brainlets out there
A) Allied teams rely on cas to be mor balanced
B) Cas is often harder than drop bomb, get kill (although imo there are a few exceptions)
C) It is often team's fault for lacking spaa's
D) Allowing yourself to be exposed in the open is your own fault, CAS is only taking advantage of your mistakes if you are overexposed

+1 I can count on one hand how many times I've died to a CAS strike in the last month. Be dumb, die dumb.

Try playing high tier not baby tier, while carrying your team. A4e earlies that I can only hear after they ve bombed me already because of how fast it is, is all i get.

[Yakuza_0]

What yall smoking? It's hard to detect tanks when you are flying? Nani the freak? Do you even have eyes? Bro every map is like 4km wide and barely has any cover when ever I take out my ad2/p47 I get +3 kills and back in the day with the rockets it was like 5 easy kills before it was nerfed, and what is an aaa gonna do in RB lol just go where the AAA isn't aka the spawn of the enemy.

Plus your logic is flawed, at the start of the match there is always one guy who hops into formula 1 race car and caps then gets into a cas with in 1 minute, so now you telling me my first spawn should be an AAA? Instead of a tank because someone is 🧀the game mechanics? What kind of logic is that?

Do you guys even play top tier tho? First spawn can be a heli but you won't know that because you don't know what the enemy team has, so you may go into battle hoping someone else picks AAA but no one does and you will see a single ka 50 kill 5 Abrams before it goes down because no one went AAA, or you will say ima go AAA to counter the heli spawns but then half of ur team has the same idea and then you get steam rolled by enemy team because they got 10 tanks and you got 5 tanks.

Or you will go AAA because last game a dude in heli killed you and half of ur team, but than no one spawns as heli and you just end up losing a spawn for no reason.

The way to fix the issue is to put a 5 minute timer before anyone is allowed to spawn as an aircraft and or a helicopter, that way you let the people who qued for ground battles have a ground battle 😉 and than the planes will come in for support, this single change will also stop idiots who drive the fiats to get to cap and J out for a plane too or any other fast car,