Is top tier just spawn kills?

[Jungle Troll]

Just 10 seconds into a 7.0 game a leopard 1 just spawn kills me and another guy right across the whole map. My armour is useless because of all the HEAT FS

[KokkoJustus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

To play high to toptier, you need to rush into the flanks as soon you respawn, flank more or less up to the middle map, destroy enemy team as much as possible, buy time to rush the capzones, after that rush to flanks again.
Usualy doing this you will inflict alot damage on enemy team, enought for less skilled mates to advance trought the middle in a more confortable way.
By playing like this you also catch few enemies trying to spawntrap your team and prevent that from happenning.
This is how i play a toptier, and i usualy profit.
This tactics i use i usualy use them playing in squads with some badass friends i got, but solo these can work to, or atleast distabilize enought the enemy team, to prevent them full map control.
Lets not forget, that as higher tiers / brs we go , we see faster more mobile tanks, with great optics and insane firepower.
The right fast timming at start, can mean win or defeat, get late to right flanks spots you will lose, get in time to the right flank spots , cut the enemy team off and they will never recover back and lose.
Im sorry for the long text, i hope i helped:)

Rushing in blind and alone isnt a good idea. Someone is always hiding in some bush or behind a corner killing or disabling you before you even realize they are there.

better of pushing caps with a group of friendlies, or anything else with a group of friendlies so you dont get ambushed like that

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

To play high to toptier, you need to rush into the flanks as soon you respawn, flank more or less up to the middle map, destroy enemy team as much as possible, buy time to rush the capzones, after that rush to flanks again.
Usualy doing this you will inflict alot damage on enemy team, enought for less skilled mates to advance trought the middle in a more confortable way.
By playing like this you also catch few enemies trying to spawntrap your team and prevent that from happenning.
This is how i play a toptier, and i usualy profit.
This tactics i use i usualy use them playing in squads with some badass friends i got, but solo these can work to, or atleast distabilize enought the enemy team, to prevent them full map control.
Lets not forget, that as higher tiers / brs we go , we see faster more mobile tanks, with great optics and insane firepower.
The right fast timming at start, can mean win or defeat, get late to right flanks spots you will lose, get in time to the right flank spots , cut the enemy team off and they will never recover back and lose.
Im sorry for the long text, i hope i helped:)

Rushing in blind and alone isnt a good idea. Someone is always hiding in some bush or behind a corner killing or disabling you before you even realize they are there.

better of pushing caps with a group of friendlies, or anything else with a group of friendlies so you dont get ambushed like that

have fun losing your spawn and games fast, if thats what your think...
I respect you and your opinion.

[KokkoJustus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Rushing in blind and alone isnt a good idea. Someone is always hiding in some bush or behind a corner killing or disabling you before you even realize they are there.

better of pushing caps with a group of friendlies, or anything else with a group of friendlies so you dont get ambushed like that

have fun losing your spawn and games fast, if thats what your think...
I respect you and your opinion.

Usually the lose comes when someone pushes too far and gets killed and then leaves bc they lost their best vehicle they had in the match.

when everybody plays smart and groups up and dont go solo pushing enemy spawn it goes well usually

[KokkoJustus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

have fun losing your spawn and games fast, if thats what your think...
I respect you and your opinion.

Usually the lose comes when someone pushes too far and gets killed and then leaves bc they lost their best vehicle they had in the match.

when everybody plays smart and groups up and dont go solo pushing enemy spawn it goes well usually

Only time solopushing is really a good strategy at the start is when you take a cheap light vehicle and push a cap so you can have a CAS up early to give info about enemy locations and maybe take out some enemies in difficult positions

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

have fun losing your spawn and games fast, if thats what your think...
I respect you and your opinion.

Usually the lose comes when someone pushes too far and gets killed and then leaves bc they lost their best vehicle they had in the match.

when everybody plays smart and groups up and dont go solo pushing enemy spawn it goes well usually

I go solo i reach enemy spawn many times, while my team has all objectives capped, i can go really high scores alone and reck full team almost alone.
In squads ofc its much easier to achieve map control.
I play mostly in squads but also alone many games.
Playing flanks to have full map control, this is mandatory for any ground game mode:)
If you disagree, im ok with you, hope my enemy teams are all like you, that way i can boost my stats, thank you sir:)

[KokkoJustus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Usually the lose comes when someone pushes too far and gets killed and then leaves bc they lost their best vehicle they had in the match.

when everybody plays smart and groups up and dont go solo pushing enemy spawn it goes well usually

I go solo i reach enemy spawn many times, while my team has all objectives capped, i can go really high scores alone and reck full team almost alone.
In squads ofc its much easier to achieve map control.
I play mostly in squads but also alone many games.
Playing flanks to have full map control, this is mandatory for any ground game mode:)
If you disagree, im ok with you, hope my enemy teams are all like you, that way i can boost my stats, thank you sir:)

Oh wait, you were the arcade guy werent you?

That expalins alot.

Aracade on top tier is pretty much just an easy mode where poeple just seem to grind out from their stock heats

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

I go solo i reach enemy spawn many times, while my team has all objectives capped, i can go really high scores alone and reck full team almost alone.
In squads ofc its much easier to achieve map control.
I play mostly in squads but also alone many games.
Playing flanks to have full map control, this is mandatory for any ground game mode:)
If you disagree, im ok with you, hope my enemy teams are all like you, that way i can boost my stats, thank you sir:)

Oh wait, you were the arcade guy werent you?

That expalins alot.

Aracade on top tier is pretty much just an easy mode where poeple just seem to grind out from their stock heats

Try playing ab????
You wont last a minute....
That rb excuse is old....

[KokkoJustus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Oh wait, you were the arcade guy werent you?

That expalins alot.

Aracade on top tier is pretty much just an easy mode where poeple just seem to grind out from their stock heats

Try playing ab????
You wont last a minute....
That rb excuse is old....

Only times i play AB nowadays is when i have stock heats and dont want to get obliriated in rb.
Or when i want to play casually without having to focus on the game that much.

Seem to be doing pretty well with 1.6 frags per death and 2.8 kills per match on average there.

Which is pretty well considering i pretty much only use stock vehicles there

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

Try playing ab????
You wont last a minute....
That rb excuse is old....

Only times i play AB nowadays is when i have stock heats and dont want to get obliriated in rb.
Or when i want to play casually without having to focus on the game that much.

Seem to be doing pretty well with 1.6 frags per death and 2.8 kills per match on average there.

Which is pretty well considering i pretty much only use stock vehicles there

What br?
11.0, 107???
Just asking, no offense.

[KokkoJustus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Only times i play AB nowadays is when i have stock heats and dont want to get obliriated in rb.
Or when i want to play casually without having to focus on the game that much.

Seem to be doing pretty well with 1.6 frags per death and 2.8 kills per match on average there.

Which is pretty well considering i pretty much only use stock vehicles there

What br?
11.0, 107???
Just asking, no offense.

Leopard 2a5 was the vehicle i lastly upgraded there so 10.7 last time

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KokkoJustus:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Novastorm:

What br?
11.0, 107???
Just asking, no offense.

Leopard 2a5 was the vehicle i lastly upgraded there so 10.7 last time

Ok bro, thanx for your reply, im here but not to say im better, i was just asking.
However i dont think RB players are superior to AB players.
Im not RB player, but most of WT friends are both modes players, they play have more relax games playing RB than AB, their stats in RB are much higher than AB.
RB you can flank and drive your tanks trought the map, in AB you dont have element of surprise for most part.
Now combine that with powerfull 11.0 machines in AB games can be a nightmare.
AB is face to face and CAS in AB doesnt work well, "time limit".
Even so , my full respect to you RB player and peace brother, all the best to you.

[TaxEvadingDonut]

Yes, if you get into a sever where the Russians are smart they will rush you with Mi-28s, Ka-52s, and Ka-50s. They will mow your team in a matter of seconds and cause the match to be over. I've seen a Mi-28 player gain 12 kills at the beginning of the match because of chopper rushing. Top tier is a pain.