Super Mystere B2 is overtiered and painful.

[su]

i dont know what to say here, its just a terrible jet and doesnt deserve to be 9.0 at all, i feel like it should be 8.3 or AT MOST 8.7. the aim9bs are terrible and the acceleration/energy retention is among the worst of any plane ive ever played. aside from everything else that sucks about the plane, i will say the guns are among the best i have ever used, defas are amazing and i love these guns. another thing that is better than garbage about this plane is the turning but that doesnt really help when you lose all your speed after a good 5 seconds of turning. anyways do you agree with me? do you disagree? tell me in comments :)

[levo85h]

It's an unique plane that has lots of flaws but also gives you some exciting moments. Having terrible MER in high G maneuver allows you to pull off reversals very easy on most of jets around 9.0, which is pretty fun to do. High-altitude performance makes it a solid support fighter as well.

I gotta agree, though. It's not competitive at 9.0 with the current performance it has. Regaining energy in SMB2 is a nightmare once you lose it, and at high speed, it suffers from severe control stiffening. It still is fun to fly from time to time, but under the circumstance of heavily compressed BR(8.0~10.0), I wouldn't call it competitive by any means.

[su]

Originally posted by Scimitar Connoisseur 85h:

It's an unique plane that has lots of flaws but also gives you some exciting moments. Having terrible MER in high G maneuver allows you to pull off reversals very easy on most of jets around 9.0, which is pretty fun to do. High-altitude performance makes it a solid support fighter as well.

I gotta agree, though. It's not competitive at 9.0 with the current performance it has. Regaining energy in SMB2 is a nightmare once you lose it, and at high speed, it suffers from severe control stiffening. It still is fun to fly from time to time, but under the circumstance of heavily compressed BR(8.0~10.0), I wouldn't call it competitive by any means.

i believe it should be 8.7 or 8.3, since i would say its competitiveness is on par with the mig15bis, maybe a little worse.

[levo85h]

It's similar to how Hunter F.1 feels like in current meta. It doesn't have an advantage it once had before anymore, as there are other options that ourperform it.

That being said, I'm not really fond of bringing its BR down. Moving MiG-15s and Sabres to 8.3 was already mind-boggling enough. Not to mention, giving an airspawn to strike fighters didn't help either.

If anything, the vehicles that have questionable performance for its BR should go up, not down. Revoking airspawn from strike fighters would also be an option, as it will prevent them from abusing initial energy advantage.

[su]

Originally posted by Scimitar Connoisseur 85h:

It's similar to how Hunter F.1 feels like in current meta. It doesn't have an advantage it once had before anymore, as there are other options that ourperform it.

That being said, I'm not really fond of bringing its BR down. Moving MiG-15s and Sabres to 8.3 was already mind-boggling enough. Not to mention, giving an airspawn to strike fighters didn't help either.

If anything, the vehicles that have questionable performance for its BR should go up, not down. Revoking airspawn from strike fighters would also be an option, as it will prevent them from abusing initial energy advantage.

thats not the way gaijin wants to do this though, so i do believe bringing the smb2 down to 8.7 would be the most realistic solution

[levo85h]

Originally posted by suwu:

Originally posted by Scimitar Connoisseur 85h:

It's similar to how Hunter F.1 feels like in current meta. It doesn't have an advantage it once had before anymore, as there are other options that ourperform it.

That being said, I'm not really fond of bringing its BR down. Moving MiG-15s and Sabres to 8.3 was already mind-boggling enough. Not to mention, giving an airspawn to strike fighters didn't help either.

If anything, the vehicles that have questionable performance for its BR should go up, not down. Revoking airspawn from strike fighters would also be an option, as it will prevent them from abusing initial energy advantage.

thats not the way gaijin wants to do this though, so i do believe bringing the smb2 down to 8.7 would be the most realistic solution

Might as well bring down all the planes that have legacy BR at that point, to be honest.

[su]

Originally posted by Scimitar Connoisseur 85h:

Originally posted by suwu:

thats not the way gaijin wants to do this though, so i do believe bringing the smb2 down to 8.7 would be the most realistic solution

Might as well bring down all the planes that have legacy BR at that point, to be honest.

honestly yea, hunter cl13 f100d f86s may as well