Any tips for Ostwind / Ostwind 2 leading?

[>:3]

I've been playing 5.3/6.0 for a while and I always use the Wirb and it was extremely easy to learn (4 20mms go brrrrr) and well the ostwind rounds like feel they should hit but never do. any tips for proper leading with the Ostwinds 37mm guns?

[SpiralRazor]

Cannon AA very rarely hit planes no matter how well youre leading. They just dont have the fire rate or prox fuse at low tier. You can kill most things from the side though at that BR, excepting the heavy tanks.

[>:3]

Originally posted by SpiralRazor:

Cannon AA very rarely hit planes no matter how well youre leading. They just dont have the fire rate or prox fuse at low tier. You can kill most things from the side though at that BR, excepting the heavy tanks.

Yea i meme with the wirbs 20mms penning sides breaking tracks etc but man hitting air at all does seem a little hard with cannon AA

[Kotory]

Simple tip - don't use them. Wirb is better as AA

[Abist Thuringiensis]

Originally posted by Kotory:

Simple tip - don't use them. Wirb is better as AA

Originally posted by SpiralRazor:

Cannon AA very rarely hit planes no matter how well youre leading. They just dont have the fire rate or prox fuse at low tier. You can kill most things from the side though at that BR, excepting the heavy tanks.

I don't necessarily agree. While i don't really have experience using the ostwind 2, the amount of times i've been killed by those things is suggests that they're quite good in the right hands.
The "trick" i use for low-tier plane killing at long-distances is putting the plane on the crosshair and waiting 1-2 seconds so i know how much i should lead, and it works pretty well for most high-caliber.

[Kotory]

U can do everything ostwind can with wirb but simplier and better.
This is the point.

[Abist Thuringiensis]

Originally posted by Kotory:

U can do everything ostwind can with wirb but simplier and better.
This is the point.

Not necessarily.
The ostwind's 37mm does have more range and more umpf, so it's better for engaging targets flying higher, faster, or in general bigger targets.
While using the Tu-2's to bully bomb german teams i can usually survive a bunch of shots from a whirbly boy, however if ever get hit a single time from an ostwind, even if it was a bad hit, i just become a flaming mess and die.

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Festina Lente:

Originally posted by Kotory:

U can do everything ostwind can with wirb but simplier and better.
This is the point.

Not necessarily.
The ostwind's 37mm does have more range and more umpf, so it's better for engaging targets flying higher, faster, or in general bigger targets.
While using the Tu-2's to bully bomb german teams i can usually survive a bunch of shots from a whirbly boy, however if ever get hit a single time from an ostwind, even if it was a bad hit, i just become a flaming mess and die.

it doesn't have any advantage at long range due to much lower fire density.
37mm "oomph" means nothing when quadruple 20 already shreds targets into pieces in 0.5 sec.
AAs with disabilites who can't hit ♥♥♥♥ will do with ostwind even worse than they do with wirb.

[dLFN]

Become a true chad and use the flakbus as an actual anti air

[>:3]

Originally posted by Kotory:

Originally posted by Festina Lente:

Not necessarily.
The ostwind's 37mm does have more range and more umpf, so it's better for engaging targets flying higher, faster, or in general bigger targets.
While using the Tu-2's to bully bomb german teams i can usually survive a bunch of shots from a whirbly boy, however if ever get hit a single time from an ostwind, even if it was a bad hit, i just become a flaming mess and die.

it doesn't have any advantage at long range due to much lower fire density.
37mm "oomph" means nothing when quadruple 20 already shreds targets into pieces in 0.5 sec.
AAs with disabilites who can't hit ♥♥♥♥ will do with ostwind even worse than they do with wirb.

to be fair ostwind 2 has 6 man when wirb has 5 1 guy dont seem like much but its saved me and the wirb does have more pen with its HV rounds

[>:3]

Originally posted by dLFN:

Become a true chad and use the flakbus as an actual anti air

LORD no I suck at the flak bus I go flakpanzer 38t all da way

[SLOT-_-FLOPPIES]

bait them by firing a burst or two then stop most of the time they dive on you. if you can't bait them wait for them to fly close either by chance or moving to where they are flying over. wait for them to climb after a dive a slower target is easier to hit. Lead more than you think you need to, if you ever watch another player it looks like they are aiming way behind planes but it looks good to them. Practice practice practice in custom matches.

[>:3]

Originally posted by SLOT-_-FLOPPIES:

bait them by firing a burst or two then stop most of the time they dive on you. if you can't bait them wait for them to fly close either by chance or moving to where they are flying over. wait for them to climb after a dive a slower target is easier to hit. Lead more than you think you need to, if you ever watch another player it looks like they are aiming way behind planes but it looks good to them. Practice practice practice in custom matches.

well i know this lol

[SLOT-_-FLOPPIES]

Originally posted by Panzerjager Tiger (P) "Elefant":

Originally posted by SLOT-_-FLOPPIES:

bait them by firing a burst or two then stop most of the time they dive on you. if you can't bait them wait for them to fly close either by chance or moving to where they are flying over. wait for them to climb after a dive a slower target is easier to hit. Lead more than you think you need to, if you ever watch another player it looks like they are aiming way behind planes but it looks good to them. Practice practice practice in custom matches.

well i know this lol

I mean I don't know what else to tell you, I don't want to be one of the "get good people" those are the things I do and I get a lot of plane kills with any AA. If you are already doing all of those things maybe its your ping?

[>:3]

Originally posted by SLOT-_-FLOPPIES:

Originally posted by Panzerjager Tiger (P) "Elefant":

well i know this lol

I mean I don't know what else to tell you, I don't want to be one of the "get good people" those are the things I do and I get a lot of plane kills with any AA. If you are already doing all of those things maybe its your ping?

who knows I guess ill just have to practice more

[Abist Thuringiensis]

Originally posted by Kotory:

Originally posted by Festina Lente:

Not necessarily.
The ostwind's 37mm does have more range and more umpf, so it's better for engaging targets flying higher, faster, or in general bigger targets.
While using the Tu-2's to bully bomb german teams i can usually survive a bunch of shots from a whirbly boy, however if ever get hit a single time from an ostwind, even if it was a bad hit, i just become a flaming mess and die.

it doesn't have any advantage at long range due to much lower fire density.
37mm "oomph" means nothing when quadruple 20 already shreds targets into pieces in 0.5 sec.
AAs with disabilites who can't hit ♥♥♥♥ will do with ostwind even worse than they do with wirb.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point.
Its higher fire also means that its trail of shells is easier to dodge at longer distances.
With both weapon systems, it's going to be hard to hit past 2 km, but if a whirble gets a hit off it's most likely not going to deal critical damage, especially to large dive bombers, an ostwind however guarantees a kill every time it hits.
I'm going to have to repeat myself here, but when using medium or even heavy bombers in ground RB if I fly evasively I can still manage 2 or 3 bombing runs and drop all of my payloads.
When I'm facing skilled ostwind 2 players I may be shot down before completing a single bombing run.