Not only wt having server problems

[76561198315424152]

It is not just wt, i checked the forums of other games too. Reporting lags, ping spikes, etc.

Just confirms what i said like 50 times in these threads

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Overload of the internet due to lockdowns and recommendations to stay home by the media.
People got better screens and they wanna stream in the highest quality they can
Ppl downloading much and using the internet much more than usual...

Started around the lockdowns a bit over a year ago i think.

My best guess, idk though.

More convinced now. Anyone got a better theory...

[Ponto]

Straightforward reasoning but then again,.... whiners are typically interested in their own little world and what is going on inside their own thin skinned bubble.

[pryanick]

Servers are working now, sorry for the inconveniences.

[AftonyX]

This is true to some extent certainly but war thunder has had server issues for years you can find post about the servers not working or having issues dating back to 2015 you can also find post on sparking/sparks and ghost shells from years ago which is a desync between the server and the player

[76561198315424152]

Yeah but as you can see, when the server problems they did have was fixed, and apoligized for, the high pl, ping spikes, disconnects still remain...like with other games.

It just happen to coincide with the lockdown. And a few days ago, my country at least gave out warnings of that people need to be home more or theyd close down the gyms and swimming pools etc completely.

Havent even been on for several months, i just see the threads, keeping an eye out on the general development.

(Not of the covid, i think that's meaningless nonsense and harmless to 99.9% of the population. Like a normal flue or about... it is nice that people have distance an extra half meter or so in the stores tho. some common sense space. 😁)

[0nion_man_LV]

you clearly don't understand a thing about global network and the load distribution between servers.

[76561198315424152]

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you clearly don't understand a thing about global network and the load distribution between servers.

Nope, i do not. You of course do, well enough to explain everything right?

[Lunovus]

If you have some understanding of websites, you know WT has one.

They post news there, about all kinds of stuff.

If you see a post like https://warthunder.com/en/news/6888-ongoing-server-technical-difficulties-en there, you'd know that Gaijin's officials themselves admit that THEIR servers had (hopefully not have again, just sayin..) problems.

In the current case of the problems with WT's servers in the last few days, it wasn't the Internet being too congested, but (some of) WT's servers having technical problems (for most people at least).

This ain't a theory btw..

[Waste]

You can't really congest 'the internet', there's not a finite bandwidth for the whole thing. You can congest individual 'locations' (i.e. a classic DDoS attack) but the internet is extremely mechanically decentralized which makes it pretty much impossible to slow the whole thing.

Maybe when somebody invents a quantum computer they will actually be able to DDoS the entire internet though and woe betide us when that happens.

[0nion_man_LV]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez 0nion_man_LV:

you clearly don't understand a thing about global network and the load distribution between servers.

Nope, i do not. You of course do, well enough to explain everything right?

lol

[76561198315424152]

@waste

{LINK USUNIĘTY}https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.computerweekly.com/news/252484258/Third-of-UK-internet-users-report-worse-service-since-lockdown%3famp=1

(Third-of-UK-internet-users-report-worse-service-since-lockdown%3famp=1)


Another article saying internet use is up some 70%..thought it was more but ok.

{LINK USUNIĘTY}https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/business/coronavirus-internet-traffic-speed.amp.html%3f0p19G=0232

Etc. Link removed but was about reduced traffic speeds in a bunch of places.

Sure its decentralized, but when large areas, even countries are or were almost shut down from time to time, with so many people asked to stay home...naturally then using the internet more... and after a quick look around at some various articles it seemed to have had some effect on performance in a lot of areas... just put two and two together.

not saying im right cause i dont know, but before the lockdowns i had never experienced the pl loss lags, ping spikes and connection errors on wt why i thought it played a significant part in all this...but there were a few years i didnt play anything at all so... maybe it is not that new. just a theory..

Początkowo opublikowane przez Lunovus:

If you have some understanding of websites, you know WT has one.

They post news there, about all kinds of stuff.

If you see a post like {LINK USUNIĘTY}https://warthunder.com/en/news/6888-ongoing-server-technical-difficulties-en there, you'd know that Gaijin's officials themselves admit that THEIR servers had (hopefully not have again, just sayin..) problems.

In the current case of the problems with WT's servers in the last few days, it wasn't the Internet being too congested, but (some of) WT's servers having technical problems (for most people at least).

This ain't a theory btw..

Yeah thats for the past few days right. im talking about the problems lasting over the past year or so..

Around the 279 event, both before and after were having this stuff. people dropping out of matches in numbers sometimes. Flying close to the ground one would have crashed out of nowhere cause of pl, not showing the right altitude or where u actually were...planes jumping around so youd have to guess where to shoot a little bit.. a plane i was hunting appeared on my six instead from one moment to the next etc. until i stopped playing about 6 months ago, & still ongoing... based on the threads ive seen like every day ever since.

[Lunovus]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/6888-ongoing-server-technical-difficulties-en

Could also be because of some servers at servers.com, but I'm just guessing here..

Btw. I'm an IT pro, and did some traceroutes, so that servers.com namedropping is not just a theory either ;-)

[Dahak]

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@waste

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.computerweekly.com/news/252484258/Third-of-UK-internet-users-report-worse-service-since-lockdown%3famp=1

(Third-of-UK-internet-users-report-worse-service-since-lockdown%3famp=1)


Another article saying internet use is up some 70%..thought it was more but ok.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/business/coronavirus-internet-traffic-speed.amp.html%3f0p19G=0232

Etc. Link removed but was about reduced traffic speeds in a bunch of places.

Sure its decentralized, but when large areas, even countries are or were almost shut down from time to time, with so many people asked to stay home...naturally then using the internet more... and after a quick look around at some various articles it seemed to have had some effect on performance in a lot of areas... just put two and two together.

not saying im right cause i dont know, but before the lockdowns i had never experienced the pl loss lags, ping spikes and connection errors on wt why i thought it played a significant part in all this...but there were a few years i didnt play anything at all so... maybe it is not that new. just a theory..

Początkowo opublikowane przez Lunovus:

If you have some understanding of websites, you know WT has one.

They post news there, about all kinds of stuff.

If you see a post like https://warthunder.com/en/news/6888-ongoing-server-technical-difficulties-en there, you'd know that Gaijin's officials themselves admit that THEIR servers had (hopefully not have again, just sayin..) problems.

In the current case of the problems with WT's servers in the last few days, it wasn't the Internet being too congested, but (some of) WT's servers having technical problems (for most people at least).

This ain't a theory btw..

Yeah thats for the past few days right. im talking about the problems lasting over the past year or so..

Around the 279 event, both before and after were having this stuff. people dropping out of matches in numbers sometimes. Flying close to the ground one would have crashed out of nowhere cause of pl, not showing the right altitude or where u actually were...planes jumping around so youd have to guess where to shoot a little bit.. a plane i was hunting appeared on my six instead from one moment to the next etc. until i stopped playing about 6 months ago, & still ongoing... based on the threads ive seen like every day ever since.

Thats not an issue with 'the internet' though. That is caused by the local ISPs infrastructure not being able to handle the current load effectively. When an ISP enters a market or upgrades their systems, they build infrastructure to support usage based on historical data. Which prior to all the lockdowns meant only a certain percentage of their client base was using high-bandwidth services at the same time (depending on the individual market). So if you design a system for 20K users expecting around 10K on at any given time, and built it out for 12K to have some slack, you are in trouble when 15 K are on at the same time (this is super simplified; I am not an IT guy, just relaying what I learned from an IT friend). The overall internet network itself is so robust it would take an apocalyptic event to really break it (giant meteor, nuclear war, etc), but your local network is much more vulnerable.

[76561198315424152]

Thanks for the correction, that said, without really knowing this stuff, still seems correlated. So whatever area is handling the data traffic over there from warthunder, seems bottlenecked somewhere is what i mean. Or are you saying that the server issues, pl problems and that stuff that has been going on since the beginning of the lockdowns is coincidence..? I for one never saw these issues on wt before that.

[76561198315424152]

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Thanks for the correction, that said, without really knowing this stuff, still seems correlated. So whatever area is handling the data traffic over there from warthunder, seems bottlenecked somewhere is what i mean. Or are you saying that the server issues, pl problems and that stuff that has been going on since the beginning of the lockdowns is coincidence..? I for one never saw these issues on wt before that.

Bump, would like to hear from the ones who knows how it works. i know im not the smartest, just would like to some other explanation if it by some chance is not this.

Topics about the servers still appears almost every day...

Sounds like issues with "the internet" to me, why isnt large local areas with problems of bottlenecking data traffic part of "the internet".



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Nvm, just looked up this... sry doubters, im still convinced this is what it is, without knowing the complete technical details like the "lol"onion-expert in here, too high and mighty in knowledge to explain what he "knows" and how it all works & what's really going on, it's gonna be tough to convince me otherwise after reading some of this stuff.

YouTube has announced that it will reduce streaming quality for users around the world, according to Bloomberg. The decision comes just one week after YouTube announced it was reducing streaming quality for users in Europe to help lessen broadband strain as more people stay home to help curb the spread of the novel coronavirus.

By default, videos will start playing in standard definition (480p) quality, according to Bloomberg. People who want to watch videos in high definition can still do so, but they must manually select that option.

“We continue to work closely with governments and network operators around the globe to do our part to minimize stress on the system during this unprecedented situation,” the company said in a statement to Bloomberg.

YouTube is far from the only company reducing streaming quality to try to lessen broadband strain. Netflix has reduced its bitrates in Europe to ease up its streaming platform’s burden on broadband by 25 percent. Apple has taken similar steps, and Amazon is also dropping its average bitrates in Europe but is continuing to monitor the situation in the US and other countries around the world. The company is ready to take action elsewhere if broadband problems call for it, The Verge learned. Netflix’s chief content officer, Ted Sarandos, hinted that Netflix could do the same thing around the world depending on local authority requests.

As more people work and learn from home, concerns about stress being placed on broadband networks continue to grow. And it’s not only impacting video streaming platforms: today, Sony announced that it will slow down PlayStation downloads in Europe in an effort to “preserve internet access for the entire community.” More companies are likely to take similar actions around the world the longer people remain self-quarantined at home.

what else would it be..

If not this, then whats the real take on explaining whats been going on..

Or is it as simple as the players just gonna have to deal with it until the lockdowns are over or people stop caring for the whole thing and starts to go out again.

[Silent]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tidsloop:

Thanks for the correction, that said, without really knowing this stuff, still seems correlated. So whatever area is handling the data traffic over there from warthunder, seems bottlenecked somewhere is what i mean. Or are you saying that the server issues, pl problems and that stuff that has been going on since the beginning of the lockdowns is coincidence..? I for one never saw these issues on wt before that.

Correlation is not causation. In other words, just because there's a lockdown and war thunder's servers are not working correctly, doesn't mean that it's caused because of global internet usage being up.

War Thunder's servers have had issues before and I've been playing since 2013.