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Bunio07 Oct 7, 2020 @ 4:53pm
T80U vs T72B3
Which one is more worth to research 1st, pros and cons of both. Also is there any in game difference between 2A46M-5 and M-1? Ty
Originally posted by kamikazi21358:
They are equals,
the firepower is equal, although slightly in favor for the T-80U with a 28 shell autoloader, while the T-72 uses a 22 shell autoloader with a fractionally longer reload; however, the T-72’s autoloader is slightly more protected.
The mobility is significantly higher on the T-80U, with a GTD-1250 gas turbine engine it has the HP/t similar to the NATO tanks.
However, the armor on the T-72B obr. 1989+ series is slightly better.

I don’t have the T-72B3 specifically, but overall my impression should be it is an equal. The T-80U has good armor (although can be breach repairing simulator 2020 half the time), and high mobility; however Gaijin still insists on using maps designed for Pre-war and World War II era tanks / arcade sized maps in all gamemodes, so imo it isn’t game breaking to have a 840 HP engine or less, since everybody can get to the battlefield in 20 seconds anyways. So then the T-72B3 has slightly superior armor. So when you do get big maps, you can get into positions faster with the T-80U, with the T-72B3 and obr. 1989, you are more comparable in mobility to the Rank VI MBTs, but very few tanks if any can penetrate the T-72B3 without aiming for the critical spots, which are the same on both tanks.


I find high tier, unenjoyable right now tbh with the BR compression and terrible map design, but I recommend either doing what sounds more fun to you (fast MBT or very strong MBT), or alternatively what you just want. I went for the T-80U, (because the T-72s weren’t in game), but also because I think highly of the T-80 as a tank, and I wanted to play it since 2015 when they started going more modern. If you want to play the T-72, I recommend going for it, or alternatively, I don’t know when they’re coming or if 100% for sure they’ll be in this line, but if you want the T-90 series, it is a direct development of the T-72, so I imagine the T-90 series when added will be after the T-72 series.
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Mr Luxury Yacht Oct 7, 2020 @ 4:56pm 
The two guns are functionally identical in game as far as I know.

T-72B3 vs. T-80U is a trade of armor vs. mobility. Neither are slouches in either but the T-72B3 is a bit slower and a bit chonkier. It also gets a slightly slower, but more powerful gun launched ATGM.

The other key difference, and why I'm researching the B3 first, is thermals is a T2 upgrade on the B3 vs. a T4 on the T-80U.
Last edited by Mr Luxury Yacht; Oct 7, 2020 @ 4:56pm
Qu Rahn Oct 7, 2020 @ 7:01pm 
mobility is meta, armor is not. T80U > T72B3
the numbers, mason the numbers what do they mean
Originally posted by Qu Rahn:
mobility is meta, armor is not. T80U > T72B3
Very false due to Volumetric Shell, Armor is now Meta
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Originally posted by Qu Rahn:
mobility is meta, armor is not. T80U > T72B3
Very false due to Volumetric Shell, Armor is now Meta
on some tanks yes, apfsds is thin enough as it is it doesnt care much about volumetric shells. ww2 tanks yes especially tanks with lots of armour.
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kamikazi21358 Oct 7, 2020 @ 9:20pm 
They are equals,
the firepower is equal, although slightly in favor for the T-80U with a 28 shell autoloader, while the T-72 uses a 22 shell autoloader with a fractionally longer reload; however, the T-72’s autoloader is slightly more protected.
The mobility is significantly higher on the T-80U, with a GTD-1250 gas turbine engine it has the HP/t similar to the NATO tanks.
However, the armor on the T-72B obr. 1989+ series is slightly better.

I don’t have the T-72B3 specifically, but overall my impression should be it is an equal. The T-80U has good armor (although can be breach repairing simulator 2020 half the time), and high mobility; however Gaijin still insists on using maps designed for Pre-war and World War II era tanks / arcade sized maps in all gamemodes, so imo it isn’t game breaking to have a 840 HP engine or less, since everybody can get to the battlefield in 20 seconds anyways. So then the T-72B3 has slightly superior armor. So when you do get big maps, you can get into positions faster with the T-80U, with the T-72B3 and obr. 1989, you are more comparable in mobility to the Rank VI MBTs, but very few tanks if any can penetrate the T-72B3 without aiming for the critical spots, which are the same on both tanks.


I find high tier, unenjoyable right now tbh with the BR compression and terrible map design, but I recommend either doing what sounds more fun to you (fast MBT or very strong MBT), or alternatively what you just want. I went for the T-80U, (because the T-72s weren’t in game), but also because I think highly of the T-80 as a tank, and I wanted to play it since 2015 when they started going more modern. If you want to play the T-72, I recommend going for it, or alternatively, I don’t know when they’re coming or if 100% for sure they’ll be in this line, but if you want the T-90 series, it is a direct development of the T-72, so I imagine the T-90 series when added will be after the T-72 series.
Haze Oct 8, 2020 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Originally posted by Qu Rahn:
mobility is meta, armor is not. T80U > T72B3
Very false due to Volumetric Shell, Armor is now Meta
Have u played toptier tho? Which this post is about, 2 toptier tanks at 10.7.. anyways, armor is pretty much non existent. Lower glasis of t80/t72 & driver port. & the sides aswell..

So in short OP: i would go with the t80u because it also has a nice reverse speed & quicker from the get go.
Doctor Eggman Oct 8, 2020 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by kamikazi21358:
They are equals,
the firepower is equal, although slightly in favor for the T-80U with a 28 shell autoloader, while the T-72 uses a 22 shell autoloader with a fractionally longer reload; however, the T-72’s autoloader is slightly more protected.
The mobility is significantly higher on the T-80U, with a GTD-1250 gas turbine engine it has the HP/t similar to the NATO tanks.
However, the armor on the T-72B obr. 1989+ series is slightly better.

I don’t have the T-72B3 specifically, but overall my impression should be it is an equal. The T-80U has good armor (although can be breach repairing simulator 2020 half the time), and high mobility; however Gaijin still insists on using maps designed for Pre-war and World War II era tanks / arcade sized maps in all gamemodes, so imo it isn’t game breaking to have a 840 HP engine or less, since everybody can get to the battlefield in 20 seconds anyways. So then the T-72B3 has slightly superior armor. So when you do get big maps, you can get into positions faster with the T-80U, with the T-72B3 and obr. 1989, you are more comparable in mobility to the Rank VI MBTs, but very few tanks if any can penetrate the T-72B3 without aiming for the critical spots, which are the same on both tanks.


I find high tier, unenjoyable right now tbh with the BR compression and terrible map design, but I recommend either doing what sounds more fun to you (fast MBT or very strong MBT), or alternatively what you just want. I went for the T-80U, (because the T-72s weren’t in game), but also because I think highly of the T-80 as a tank, and I wanted to play it since 2015 when they started going more modern. If you want to play the T-72, I recommend going for it, or alternatively, I don’t know when they’re coming or if 100% for sure they’ll be in this line, but if you want the T-90 series, it is a direct development of the T-72, so I imagine the T-90 series when added will be after the T-72 series.


The T-72B3 has almost the same mobility as the T-80U going forward and traversing, as it only has a slightly lower power / weight ratio when fully spaded.
Its only weakness is reverse speed.

In the current meta technically the B3 is the superior tank, as you trade small amount of mobility for a LOT more armor, a trollier drivers hatch, monster tandem warhead missile (which can 1-shot a lot of NATO MBT's if you pen) and Gen 2 Thermals.

A T-72B3 in a good position is currently a much better tank at the current point in time as from the front you're nearly indestructible excepting that lucky shot that manages to actually pen drivers hatch and do some damage, though even then I've taken direct hits to the drivers port and had no damage pretty often in that tank.
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Date Posted: Oct 7, 2020 @ 4:53pm
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