any reason for Su-7B BR change?

[nirvana_sth]

it was 9.0 and i have been trying to research it, slept at night and woke up to find it now being 9.3.
like wtf??

[Jaes]

Pretty much all the base bombing strike jet aircraft got their BR bumped up due to "High Combat Efficiencies" However Gaijin defines what that means is anyone's guess.

SU-7 has been a bit undertiered for awhile due to its Mach capabilities and would just laugh off 8.0 matches. Not that seeing 8.3 is any better, but 8.0 deserved that far less.

[nirvana_sth]

Originally posted by Jaes:

Pretty much all the base bombing strike jet aircraft got their BR bumped up due to "High Combat Efficiencies" However Gaijin defines what that means is anyone's guess.

SU-7 has been a bit undertiered for awhile due to its Mach capabilities and would just laugh off 8.0 matches. Not that seeing 8.3 is any better, but 8.0 deserved that far less.

well, i look at it this way, it has no counter measures, it does not have A2A missiles or guided missiles (like A4E and G91) so i would say 9.0 was ok.
it had only speed which given that it cant go any faster than 1200 kph in normal combat altitude it aint got much to offer.
9.0 was good imo, now i have to research the useless Mig 19 and get massacred by ADATS and so on.

[KokkoJustus]

Originally posted by nirvana_sth:

Originally posted by Jaes:

Pretty much all the base bombing strike jet aircraft got their BR bumped up due to "High Combat Efficiencies" However Gaijin defines what that means is anyone's guess.

SU-7 has been a bit undertiered for awhile due to its Mach capabilities and would just laugh off 8.0 matches. Not that seeing 8.3 is any better, but 8.0 deserved that far less.

well, i look at it this way, it has no counter measures, it does not have A2A missiles or guided missiles (like A4E and G91) so i would say 9.0 was ok.

But it does have a ballistic computer witch makes its huge quantaty of rockets very effective.

And it can whoop ass in air battles at 9.0

[nirvana_sth]

Originally posted by KokkoJustus:

Originally posted by nirvana_sth:

well, i look at it this way, it has no counter measures, it does not have A2A missiles or guided missiles (like A4E and G91) so i would say 9.0 was ok.

But it does have a ballistic computer witch makes its huge quantaty of rockets very effective.

And it can whoop ass in air battles at 9.0

well A4E and G91 got better load out, yet they sit at 8.7.
given they got air-to-air missiles and everything (A4E even got counter measures at 8.7)

soviet could really use a good air to ground attack plane at 9.0.

[KokkoJustus]

Originally posted by nirvana_sth:

Originally posted by KokkoJustus:

But it does have a ballistic computer witch makes its huge quantaty of rockets very effective.

And it can whoop ass in air battles at 9.0

well A4E and G91 got better load out, yet they sit at 8.7.
given they got air-to-air missiles and everything (A4E even got counter measures at 8.7)

soviet could really use a good air to ground attack plane at 9.0.

The AIM-9B's they get are useless against anything unless you shoot them at less than 800m away on an enemy that lost all its energy, so they arent even worth mentioning.

A4E is just awful at air to air combat, and has pretty terrible flight performance, so pretty much all it can do is lob 5 bullups and go back to airfield, if it didnt get shot down my an AA, which is likely to happen. And countermeasures on it arent doing anything due to it not facing any missiles that cant be dodged by rolling a bit.

And nords got nerfed so much that i have had several direct hits with them that didnt result even in any damage + there are 4 of them, so you are most of the time looking at 4 potential kills per refill at most

[nirvana_sth]

Originally posted by KokkoJustus:

Originally posted by nirvana_sth:

well A4E and G91 got better load out, yet they sit at 8.7.
given they got air-to-air missiles and everything (A4E even got counter measures at 8.7)

soviet could really use a good air to ground attack plane at 9.0.

The AIM-9B's they get are useless against anything unless you shoot them at less than 800m away on an enemy that lost all its energy, so they arent even worth mentioning.

A4E is just awful at air to air combat, and has pretty terrible flight performance, so pretty much all it can do is lob 5 bullups and go back to airfield, if it didnt get shot down my an AA, which is likely to happen. And countermeasures on it arent doing anything due to it not facing any missiles that cant be dodged by rolling a bit.

And nords got nerfed so much that i have had several direct hits with them that didnt result even in any damage + there are 4 of them, so you are most of the time looking at 4 potential kills per refill at most

Well i dont know about their performance, im trying to unlock A4E as its free but only test flew G91 (the premium one).
both are an absolute nightmare for ground targets, and both have been killing my Mig-15 BIS with A2A missiles alot.
When the nerf was done? to NORD i mean?

[hsf_]

Originally posted by nirvana_sth:

Originally posted by KokkoJustus:

The AIM-9B's they get are useless against anything unless you shoot them at less than 800m away on an enemy that lost all its energy, so they arent even worth mentioning.

A4E is just awful at air to air combat, and has pretty terrible flight performance, so pretty much all it can do is lob 5 bullups and go back to airfield, if it didnt get shot down my an AA, which is likely to happen. And countermeasures on it arent doing anything due to it not facing any missiles that cant be dodged by rolling a bit.

And nords got nerfed so much that i have had several direct hits with them that didnt result even in any damage + there are 4 of them, so you are most of the time looking at 4 potential kills per refill at most

Well i dont know about their performance, im trying to unlock A4E as its free but only test flew G91 (the premium one).
both are an absolute nightmare for ground targets, and both have been killing my Mig-15 BIS with A2A missiles alot.
When the nerf was done? to NORD i mean?

The as-20 nord had it's explosive mass reduced from 29.9 kg to 15.85 kg. It was done at about the same time they changed the flare colour from red to green on the nord.

[Ģ◊иℤ◊⚡ℤ∀муpΛй]

Do you also agree with the su17 change from 10.3 to 11.0 youre getting roasted... im not using it anymore you get obliterated by radar guided missiles what the hell were they thinking its the only attacker on 11.0