Optics supposed to absorb shrapnel?

[Funny haha Valentine]

Every time I get a good penetration on the front of a tank (yeah obviously I should be shooting the sides but sometimes I run into someone randomly), it almost always seems to make pen, then I watch the shell zoom in as all the shrapnel and damage from that shell is slotted cleanly into a small little square that is the optics. Are the optics on all the tanks in this game supposed to absorb shrapnel and break as an individual part because I'd accept that reasoning if it affected the tanks functionality at all but so far all I've seen it do is just tank a shot that would've otherwise cleanly penetrated.

[Jaes]

It's been a running joke that view ports are the best armor in the game, they eat everything.

[Космонавт]

The reason for that is actually a bit obscure. Killcam and protection analisys don't show all the shrapnel, only those bits that hit modules and crew. If you shoot someone frontally and only damage their optics that means that you didn't penetrate their armor, fuse went off outside and explosion damaged the only vulnerable outside part of the tank, that is - optics. Huge cloud of shrapnel from this outside-of-tank explosion isn't shown to avoid clutter.

[♠Gamer3106♠]

Originally posted by Космонавт:

The reason for that is actually a bit obscure. Killcam and protection analisys don't show all the shrapnel, only those bits that hit modules and crew. If you shoot someone frontally and only damage their optics that means that you didn't penetrate their armor, fuse went off outside and explosion damaged the only vulnerable outside part of the tank, that is - optics. Huge cloud of shrapnel from this outside-of-tank explosion isn't shown to avoid clutter.

No, the reason is that this is a bug and it should be fixed.

I once shot at point blank with no angle a t-34-85 with a tiger II and the optics ate the shot.

[Космонавт]

Originally posted by ♠Gamer3106♠:

Originally posted by Космонавт:

The reason for that is actually a bit obscure. Killcam and protection analisys don't show all the shrapnel, only those bits that hit modules and crew. If you shoot someone frontally and only damage their optics that means that you didn't penetrate their armor, fuse went off outside and explosion damaged the only vulnerable outside part of the tank, that is - optics. Huge cloud of shrapnel from this outside-of-tank explosion isn't shown to avoid clutter.

No, the reason is that this is a bug and it should be fixed.

I once shot at point blank with no angle a t-34-85 with a tiger II and the optics ate the shot.

You are saying it like there is no way T-34-85 could possibly survive a shot from Tiger II. Here is an example of the opposite - suboptimal shot placement, no penetration, optics destroyed by outside explosion.
https://imgur.com/a/16kPDNI
https://imgur.com/Bp06kdv
https://imgur.com/Twr0LNp
If you want to claim there is a bug - present some evidence please

[Funny haha Valentine]

Originally posted by Космонавт:

The reason for that is actually a bit obscure. Killcam and protection analisys don't show all the shrapnel, only those bits that hit modules and crew. If you shoot someone frontally and only damage their optics that means that you didn't penetrate their armor, fuse went off outside and explosion damaged the only vulnerable outside part of the tank, that is - optics. Huge cloud of shrapnel from this outside-of-tank explosion isn't shown to avoid clutter.

That doesn't make any sense? To my knowledge, killcams and protection analysis will show ALL the shrapnel (I just tested this in game and this is correct) and if what you're saying is true then thats even more the game devs fault because its illuding to a shot making a pen when it didn't?

[Lunovus]

Optics don't eat damage.

They are very vulnerable.

So if your shot doen't do any other damage to a tank because reasons, the killcam will show optics as the only part(s) damaged.

This does not mean the optics ate all the damage, it just means no other part got damaged.

Btw. MGs also don't eat damage.

[Космонавт]

Originally posted by Funny haha Valentine:

That doesn't make any sense? To my knowledge, killcams and protection analysis will show ALL the shrapnel (I just tested this in game and this is correct) and if what you're saying is true then thats even more the game devs fault because its illuding to a shot making a pen when it didn't?

I don't know how you could possibly test this and discover that all shrapnel is shown. Shrapnel forms spherical front, identical in every direction. Look closely - did you ever see shrapnel hitting the inner part of the hull after penetration? You didn't, because if game showed the entire sphere you wouldn't be able to see anything because of clutter. It's not a faulty design, it's the only design that could work with killcam requiring quick feedback on every shot

[♠Gamer3106♠]

Originally posted by Космонавт:

Originally posted by ♠Gamer3106♠:

No, the reason is that this is a bug and it should be fixed.

I once shot at point blank with no angle a t-34-85 with a tiger II and the optics ate the shot.

You are saying it like there is no way T-34-85 could possibly survive a shot from Tiger II. Here is an example of the opposite - suboptimal shot placement, no penetration, optics destroyed by outside explosion.
https://imgur.com/a/16kPDNI
https://imgur.com/Bp06kdv
https://imgur.com/Twr0LNp
If you want to claim there is a bug - present some evidence please

Except I did not hit there?
I hit literally where the optics are and it ate the shot.
It is, a bug, since optics can't eat a shell in real life. Especially from a Tiger II at point blank

[Космонавт]

Originally posted by ♠Gamer3106♠:

Except I did not hit there?
I hit literally where the optics are and it ate the shot.
It is, a bug, since optics can't eat a shell in real life. Especially from a Tiger II at point blank

And I hit a BT-5 with Nashorn and the shell bounced right back and killed me. Warthunder sure has a lot of nasty bugs if you never ask for proof of that happening.

[Kunic]

I think I once killed a tiger or Panzer IV driver via MG hit through the viewing slit but thats really really rare (some people claim you can detonate a shell via MG hit into the barrel... I guess that´s possible just very very rare)

[Slater]

Originally posted by ♠Gamer3106♠:

Originally posted by Космонавт:

You are saying it like there is no way T-34-85 could possibly survive a shot from Tiger II. Here is an example of the opposite - suboptimal shot placement, no penetration, optics destroyed by outside explosion.
https://imgur.com/a/16kPDNI
https://imgur.com/Bp06kdv
https://imgur.com/Twr0LNp
If you want to claim there is a bug - present some evidence please

Except I did not hit there?
I hit literally where the optics are and it ate the shot.
It is, a bug, since optics can't eat a shell in real life. Especially from a Tiger II at point blank

The optics did not eat the shell.

The armour surrounding the optics soaked up the majority of the impact, but non-penetrating damage to armour is not modelled in the hit cam. The hit cam shows only the components that received damage, which was the optics. The optics did not "eat the shell".