This game sick, Tiger's 8.8cm can't pen Sherman and M10 armor

[NYKD-14]

is that bug or something?
ricochet? Seems impossible, the Sherman M2 was 90 angle but slight angle to me in 600m

[Depression_pills]

you have a replay for it? also what sherman m2?

[Slyke]

Sounds like poor aim, knowledge and possibly luck.

[Pacipoodillie]

Originally posted by Curst:

Sounds like poor aim, knowledge and possibly luck.

Unless the shot made was against an incredibly angled piece of armor there's no way a bounce could be attributed to a poor shot, unless it was a M4A3E2.
Edit: This isn't limited to just 88s either, the 17-pdr is in the same boat as it should be able to go through a whole hell of a lot more than what it currently seems to be capable of.

These recent updates with Volumetric Armor and now Volumetric Shells seem to have created more problems than solutions. I'm all for fixing pixel-wide shells travelling in between armor they realistically shouldn't be able to pass through but make sure your new system actually works before you put it out.

As always, a few problems introduced with the last major update still haven't been fixed and are likely never going to be fixed.

[Slyke]

You don't even know where he hit and you already assume the reason for what happened. It could be caused by new volumetric shells, but even then it isn't necessarily a bug. Also I see no value in blaming something you have no control over when you can improve yourself and avoid the situation in the future instead.

[Pacipoodillie]

Originally posted by Curst:

You don't even know where he hit and you already assume the reason for what happened.

I don't know where he hit, you're right. Though I did specify that one of the only reasons his shot wouldn't have gone through is if he hit incredibly angled armor, which would be a poor shot. The 88 has more than enough penetration potential to go straight through any of the Shermans, save for the Jumbo, almost everywhere along the face of the tank. The likelihood of the shot not working because of a terrible mechanic put into place by the devs is far greater than shooting <10% of the visible surface of a Sherman that can't be penetrated.

[Pacipoodillie]

Originally posted by Curst:

You don't even know where he hit and you already assume the reason for what happened. It could be caused by new volumetric shells, but even then it isn't necessarily a bug. Also I see no value in blaming something you have no control over when you can improve yourself and avoid the situation in the future instead.

There are very few personal improvements to be made when what holds you back is the game itself. Certainly a lot of issues could be attributed to client/server disparity but it seems to me that with every update they end up causing more of the issues they tried to fix. In my opinion they'd do better fixing issues that have been reported to them and keeping these new major mechanics on their test release until they are actually ready.

[halolo39]

yeah the new volumetric shell is causing problems to all shells in game.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by halolo39:

yeah the new volumetric shell is causing problems to all shells in game.

By the sounds of it, they didn't test this anywhere near as much as they should have.

[Qu Rahn]

Originally posted by Pacificatore:

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At 600m you have less than 150pen with the PzGr 39. Any weird angle from 'detail armor' could've made it a ricochet. Round hull shermans are full of those weird parts. I'm not having problems with volumetric shells yet, I'm avoiding shots that are too pixel-esque or near those parts.
Also keep in mind that even with 100% targeting (yes, max targeting, max leadership, +3 expert, +2 ace) and a spaded vehicle shots still deviate from where you aimed.

[Fwostylicious]

I've bounced 2 shoots from a tiger 10.5cm back in 2016 in a T-60 light tank xD wish i had a replay for it (yes it was head on)

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by halolo39:

yeah the new volumetric shell is causing problems to all shells in game.

This, so much crap is happening with any 75mm+ AP, APHE, APCBC.

[Haze]

Originally posted by Fwostylicious:

I've bounced 2 shoots from a tiger 10.5cm back in 2016 in a T-60 light tank xD wish i had a replay for it (yes it was head on)

Wait whut xD damn, u need to find it and send to WT youtube, ez 5k eagles lol

[OcGuy]

"Sherman M2"
Pardon? If you meant the E2 then it wouldn't be uncommon nor weird to see this specific variant to yeet back your shell.
As for M10, regardless of your tank, this Tank Destroyer's frontal hull is awfully trolly.
I've engage it in a point blank range with 76mm Sherman, it bounced.

[CaptainSpacetime]

Originally posted by halolo39:

yeah the new volumetric shell is causing problems to all shells in game.

Are they? Seems like mostly german mains complaining they can't cheese pixel turret rings anymore.

[OcGuy]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

Originally posted by halolo39:

yeah the new volumetric shell is causing problems to all shells in game.

Are they? Seems like mostly german mains complaining they can't cheese pixel turret rings anymore.

Shouldn't they be grateful that now Jumbo can't pixelshot their Tiger turret ring anymore?