Explosive reactive armor

[Fat Bussy Fart Slave]

Does anyone have problems with penetrating russian top tier tanks with their ERA? I know they stop HEAFS, however even shooting them with SABOT shells doesnt pen either? can anyone guide me if im doing anything wrong?

[The_Illuminati_Confirmed]

Don't aim at Kontakt-5 plates, K-5 IRL and ingame destroys APFSDS projectiles, aim for the gun breach, LFP and driver optic, anywhere else is a no-go from the front.

[DanielExde]

Originally posted by BigNastyYeet:

Does anyone have problems with penetrating russian top tier tanks with their ERA? I know they stop HEAFS, however even shooting them with SABOT shells doesnt pen either? can anyone guide me if im doing anything wrong?

russian tanks are just bias, nothing we can do about it..

[Eftwyrd]

Modern versions of ERA are effective against kinetics as well as chemical shells. Just look at the tanks you are shooting at in the hangar and use the xray, mousing over ERA bricks will tell you exactly what they are capable of

[DanielExde]

Originally posted by Eftwyrd:

Modern versions of ERA are effective against kinetics as well as chemical shells. Just look at the tanks you are shooting at in the hangar and use the xray, mousing over ERA bricks will tell you exactly what they are capable of

this is why adding 2016 russian tanks was never a good idea :)))

[Jaes]

Treat engaging T-72s and T-80s like you're engaging a Leo 2A5. Don't blindly fire, aim for its couple of weak points on the front. The driver's optics area is best as that'll be the most consistent for scoring a crew knockout/ammo racking.

[Kay]

Kontakt-5, Relikt and other heavy ERA types are effective against Kinetic penetrators.

The UFP and turret of both the T-80U and T-72B3 are covered in Kontakt-5, the sides of the T-72B3 (obr.2016) are covered by Relikt ERA. This means, at shallow angles, the T-72B3 (obr.2016) can survive APFSDS hits to the sides.

A flat side shot or a hit on their weakspots (breech area of the turret, driver's area of the hull) will still cripple or kill them.

[Læms]

Originally posted by DanielExde:

Originally posted by BigNastyYeet:

Does anyone have problems with penetrating russian top tier tanks with their ERA? I know they stop HEAFS, however even shooting them with SABOT shells doesnt pen either? can anyone guide me if im doing anything wrong?

russian tanks are just bias, nothing we can do about it..

just git guud

[Root]

In the old days, ERA had to choose between being effective against HEAT or KE. Make the plate too heavy, and it won't be fast enough to predetonate the HEAT far enough away. Make it too light, and it won't be thick enough to destroy the KE weapon. By old days, I mean the 1990's.

Welcome to the 21st century. Now ERA can destroy both. Which is why modern AT missiles use tandom warheads. Which makes the actual pen smaller, making thicker armor better. Which makes tanks heavier and slower, and thus easier to fire multiple rounds till one finds a weak spot or for the opposing side to bring in something that can kill him. It's almost as if there is a compromise between offensive and defensive capabilities of a tank, and it's impossible to get everything maxed out perfectly.

[Kay]

Originally posted by Root:

In the old days, ERA had to choose between being effective against HEAT or KE. Make the plate too heavy, and it won't be fast enough to predetonate the HEAT far enough away. Make it too light, and it won't be thick enough to destroy the KE weapon. By old days, I mean the 1990's.

Kontakt-5 is from the 1980s (1985 on the T-80U), early ERA just wasn't effective against KE (plates weren't substantial enough) only HEAT, pre-detonation of HEAT isn't the goal of ERA in any form (or spaced/slat armour either) that just makes HEAT more effective by increasing standoff distance, allowing the HEAT jet to form properly.

ERA only detonates after HEAT rounds have already detonated and begun penetrating.

Originally posted by Root:

Welcome to the 21st century. Now ERA can destroy both. Which is why modern AT missiles use tandom warheads. Which makes the actual pen smaller, making thicker armor better. Which makes tanks heavier and slower, and thus easier to fire multiple rounds till one finds a weak spot or for the opposing side to bring in something that can kill him. It's almost as if there is a compromise between offensive and defensive capabilities of a tank, and it's impossible to get everything maxed out perfectly.

*Tandem warheads, and the penetration of a tandem warhead is usually higher not lower (if it was lower, it would make thicker armour pointless). It uses a smaller HEAT warhead ahead of the primary warhead, detonated before the primary warhead. the secondary warhead detonates ERA, effectively wasting it, allowing the primary warhead to only have to contest the main armour, not the ERA. They also damage the NERA/NxRA arrays that tanks use for their main armour if they manage to get through to it, increasing effective penetration.

The main armour of tanks that had it made thicker is both for protection against weapons with higher penetration (HEAT or APFSDS) or for protection on the sides of the tank against men with tubes (RPGs, AT-4s and other light anti-tank weapons).

[DanielExde]

Originally posted by ʟÆᴍꜱ cs.money:

Originally posted by DanielExde:

russian tanks are just bias, nothing we can do about it..

just git guud

get a life with ur 4k h.
its not a matter of being good its a matter of having a balanced game, no matter the faction who created the game.

[Læms]

Originally posted by DanielExde:

Originally posted by ʟÆᴍꜱ cs.money:

just git guud

get a life with ur 4k h.
its not a matter of being good its a matter of having a balanced game, no matter the faction who created the game.

what does that have to do with anything? if you think Russian tanks are broken op then play then yourself, and you will see they arent as good as you think they are. so git gudd..

[DanielExde]

Originally posted by ʟÆᴍꜱ cs.money:

Originally posted by DanielExde:

get a life with ur 4k h.
its not a matter of being good its a matter of having a balanced game, no matter the faction who created the game.

what does that have to do with anything? if you think Russian tanks are broken op then play then yourself, and you will see they arent as good as you think they are. so git gudd..

i see ur only playing russians from ur screenshots. do u play anything else?

[Læms]

Originally posted by DanielExde:

Originally posted by ʟÆᴍꜱ cs.money:

what does that have to do with anything? if you think Russian tanks are broken op then play then yourself, and you will see they arent as good as you think they are. so git gudd..

i see ur only playing russians from ur screenshots. do u play anything else?

i play everything haha, except Sweden, ive played every top tier tank in the game except Strv 122 sooo no i dont only play Russia but i play Russia the most because its the most fun to me not because they are the best they were actually one of the worst for a long time, when T-64BV and T-80B were top tier, then they added T-80U and it was actually pretty decent then ppl started to learn to one shot it and it isnt really hard to kill it, you just have to shoot the drivers port and one shot it

[DanielExde]

Originally posted by ʟÆᴍꜱ cs.money:

Originally posted by DanielExde:

i see ur only playing russians from ur screenshots. do u play anything else?

i play everything haha, except Sweden, ive played every top tier tank in the game except Strv 122 sooo no i dont only play Russia but i play Russia the most because its the most fun to me not because they are the best they were actually one of the worst for a long time, when T-64BV and T-80B were top tier, then they added T-80U and it was actually pretty decent then ppl started to learn to one shot it and it isnt really hard to kill it, you just have to shoot the drivers port and one shot it

then play the swedes and see how fun (not) it is, when u have no armor. and only 1 tank capable of good pen.
"fun to play russia" ye im sure the ERA and armor spamm is fun to have

[Kay]

Originally posted by DanielExde:

Originally posted by ʟÆᴍꜱ cs.money:

i play everything haha, except Sweden, ive played every top tier tank in the game except Strv 122 sooo no i dont only play Russia but i play Russia the most because its the most fun to me not because they are the best they were actually one of the worst for a long time, when T-64BV and T-80B were top tier, then they added T-80U and it was actually pretty decent then ppl started to learn to one shot it and it isnt really hard to kill it, you just have to shoot the drivers port and one shot it

then play the swedes and see how fun (not) it is, when u have no armor. and only 1 tank capable of good pen.
"fun to play russia" ye im sure the ERA and armor spamm is fun to have

"no armour"

Still has the most armoured MBT at top tier. (Strv 122, a Leopard 2A5 with extra composite making the UFP immune to most ammunition)

ERA and armour do not make a good tank. They still have a 9.7 round as their top round (no new rounds since the T-64B), poor mobility in general, worse traverse rate in general, and worse survivability than NATO tanks, along with no commander thermals (Leclerc, 2A5 and Strv 122), thermals on only 3 tanks at top tier (T-80B, T-80U and T-72B3), extremely poor night vision on the other tanks etc.

You really should play the Russians you're complaining about so much, they really aren't OP on a tank by tank basis, they just have a lot of "ok" tanks to back up their good top tier tanks.