Tiger 1 way too weak

[GedankeDaemon]

I played the Tiger H1 alot and unlocked the Tiger E now and played with it a little bit. And I really have to say that Ganji makes jokes about german tanks! Why do I bounce off a T-34-85 side armor and He one-shot me trough my frontal turret armor?! Of course Tiger 1 has 90° angeled armor BUT I ALWAYS get penetrated by EVERYTHING and EVERYWHERE! It feels like Im driving a fish can with a 88mm cannon that shoots potatos! ARE YOU FUUU SERIOUS GANJI???!! And please dont say anthing about "realism" this game is everything else than "realism" It makes me very sad that such a good game gets ruined so hard by bias!!!

[Inixus]

Its not only the Tiger 1 sadly :(

[Deku NUTT]

The Tiger 1 can face ATGMs....yeah, go balance!

[Qifi]

Well your frontal armor is around 100mm and unsloped. So you shouldn't be surprised that many rounds can go through that. Nothing to do with any Bias. Tiger is not invincible tank as some may heard on Discovery Channel.

Also the only ATGM you can face are SS.11 missiles on Stridsvagn and AMX. And let's be honest their guns are far more dangerous than slow missiles.

[Themask]

The cannon is pretty good. You just have to aim well and get lucky with the Russian armor RNG (I don’t personally like the joke but people tend to believe in it).
But I don’t think there’s that big of a problem with the H1. Yes the armor gets penned a lot, but can be pretty trolly when angles and the gun is pretty damn good.

Have any footage of the shell bouncing off the sidearmor of the T-34?

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Another topic about the tiger................................

[GedankeDaemon]

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

Another topic about the tiger................................

And why another? Because its fuuu true. I bet you only play Soviet and US tanks and dont understand the problem with the german tanks

[CHINZIG]

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

Another topic about the tiger................................

Well it's true though. The tiger 1 is crap in war thunder compared to reality.

[kyle]

they could always better balance by making the "scary big tank" of a certain BR with ways people have to learn to combat it like the KV-1 Meme Machine. Tiger players would have fun but players will also be able to cuck it without it being a glass cannon like most tanks in this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

[AttackerCat]

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

Another topic about the tiger................................

Indeed

Originally posted by IchTreffNix420:

And why another? Because its fuuu true. I bet you only play Soviet and US tanks and dont understand the problem with the german tanks

There is no problem with German tanks, specifically the Tiger 1s. They are great tanks if you use them properly in-game. Go hull down, angle your armor so it's not a 100mm box. You'll do fine.

What not to do - drive around and expect the history channel to hold true and absorb 100 T-34 shells while knocking out entire platoons of tanks, then take to the forum when you're knocked out.

Take some time, learn the tank. Tiger 1s are still great tanks in-game.

[kyle]

Originally posted by AttackerCat:

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

Another topic about the tiger................................

Indeed

Originally posted by IchTreffNix420:

And why another? Because its fuuu true. I bet you only play Soviet and US tanks and dont understand the problem with the german tanks

There is no problem with German tanks, specifically the Tiger 1s. They are great tanks if you use them properly in-game. Go hull down, angle your armor so it's not a 100mm box. You'll do fine.

What not to do - drive around and expect the history channel to hold true and absorb 100 T-34 shells while knocking out entire platoons of tanks, then take to the forum when you're knocked out.

Take some time, learn the tank. Tiger 1s are still great tanks in-game.

Maybe thats the issue, so much strategy with gaping flaws in a casual free to play game where in arcade I've played matches only 3 minutes long.

If strategy was the highlight of the game then yeah by all means everybody should educate themselves but the reality is a lot of people just hop on arcade to blow some ♥♥♥♥ up. Gaijin themselves love showcasing new weaponry and vehicles because they love recreating digital weapons of war for the players to use to blow ♥♥♥♥ up.

[saymyname]

It's a game issue, penetration on flat surface is smooth as hell while sloping is overly effective compared to real performances.

Overmatch (which is one OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS in penetration and tank warfare) is nonexistant unless we are looking at derp guns, while in reality 100 flat mm's were extremely stubborn due to being "real" (and the panzer 4 80mm was actually a good protection instead of the ♥♥♥♥ depicted in game because of that), while t34, sherman, IS1, pnz3..were all overmatched by 75 and 88.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Originally posted by IchTreffNix420:

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

Another topic about the tiger................................

And why another? Because its fuuu true. I bet you only play Soviet and US tanks and dont understand the problem with the german tanks

Lol no, im at toptier germany, usa, russia and britain.

[Total Eclipse]

And that is the thing, this is not real life, this is a game.

You aren't engaging enemy tanks over several kilometres, if you die, you don't die in real life etc. Similarly your tank won't break down.

You are always "balanced" you normally face tanks which stand a decent chance against you and you should have a decent chance against them. If you don't, then that is a balance problem, which needs to be fixed, not the tiger having problems.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Tiger1 in real life was strong because when it was deployed it was fighting early russian tank models as early allied tank models that were weaker, that is why the tiger1 got its reputation, however in this game because of balance issues our beloved tiger1 is fighting agaisnt more better versions of allied tanks along with uptier matchmaking making it quite easy to kill.
Tiers or battleratings are not made in this game according with tank models timelines, you wouldnt imagine the tiger1 facing early versions of t34s, shermans etc... simply because it would be overpowered.
You can still use tiger1s with success by using it as sniper support role, keep your distance angled and near of cover, in some situations you can travel on the map edges and pick targets from safe distance, aslong you dont use it as close quarters combat your chances of doing well can improve.

[Deku NUTT]

Originally posted by AttackerCat:

Originally posted by novastorm//pt\\:

Another topic about the tiger................................

Indeed

Originally posted by IchTreffNix420:

And why another? Because its fuuu true. I bet you only play Soviet and US tanks and dont understand the problem with the german tanks

There is no problem with German tanks, specifically the Tiger 1s. They are great tanks if you use them properly in-game. Go hull down, angle your armor so it's not a 100mm box. You'll do fine.

What not to do - drive around and expect the history channel to hold true and absorb 100 T-34 shells while knocking out entire platoons of tanks, then take to the forum when you're knocked out.

Take some time, learn the tank. Tiger 1s are still great tanks in-game.

How are germans supposed to be offensive at 5.7 then? If tigers are supposed to just snipe and play defensively, then how do Germans capture points? The other 5.7s the germans have are TDs and the Panther is awful in CQC due to the abysmal turret traverse.