How do we get Gaijin to add a tanks-only mode?

[YerKiddin]

I want Gaijin to add a mode for tanks-only. (Much like they already have modes for planes and helicopters by themselves) I basically would like them to take the current mixed battle mode, cut/paste it for a "Realistic Tank Battle" mode, and remove any/all aircraft. The only other difference would be to return to the previous spawn point system, where a heavy tank can cost all the spawn points, and smaller tanks about half that.

The thread in the Gaijin forum is over 2 years old, and there were other threads before it. Gaijin's answer to this request was just "no".

I propose we start doing things to let them know we are here. The first thing that came to mind, since typing on their forums is easy to ignore, would be to start doing thumb-down to everything they post here on the steam forums. If enough of us do this, they will notice. Even if pilots start hitting thumbs-up on everything, the sudden rise in numbers of thumb-downs will be something they can at least notice.

Also: there are many other websites that post reviews on games. If we go out to those and give bad reviews, and put up that tanking isn't as fun in this game as it could be, due to the lack of a tanks-only mode, maybe that will help.

Now: I've had a very similar thread closed due to people typing off-topic and doing personal attacks. I've been told to flag such people if/when they start doing that again. Please don't.

To help a bit, what is on topic here
1) Adding a tank-only mode for realistic combat as described in paragraph 1.
2) Ways to get Gaijin's attention or motivate them to add this mode
3) Feel free to voice your support of tanks-only.

Some specific off-topic subjects:
1) Ways to improve "Realistic Ground Combat" (You can make your own thread for this.)
2) How much you love "Realistic Ground Combat" (You can make your own thread for this.)
3) "TO will never happen!" (If this is true, you don't need to type it.)
4) "You don't want to play TO." (Because you don't have to play every mode)
5) "That makes SPAA useless" (It does not, because we're not removing the RGB mode.)
6) "You're wasting your time!" (It's ours to spend as we see fit, even if the effort fails.)

[ErickaUnlimited]

Read Before Posting

Keep it civil and on topic. All off topic posts will be dealt with accordingly.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Since I didn't participate the other Threads and will write something Civilized with deep Information for Thoughts to the Subject.

They barely at all have Presence here on the Steam Forum let alone pay attention. It's more like a Bot Dev account though I guess the Moderators might have Relay Info/Connection directly to the Devs.

They have more presence over Reddit but overall at their own Forums so anything happening on Steam they will waver it off like it doesn't exist.

The only way to actually get any attention is possibly showing a Petition on Reddit/WT forums and showing the Numbers of how many Players overall vs current Playerbase overall that want an Exclusive Tank Only Battle but it will be very difficult to convince people to sign the petition since it's very rooted that people will fight back against it as their go to Fact is, "Combine Warfare" and "World of Tanks".

There are also a LOT of YouTubers/Streamers under the Gaijin Partnership Program which adds the largest Influence to the Playerbase so unless more than half are in support for a Tank Only Battle, the root of having it is also very difficult or downright Impossible.

So choices is either a Petition of getting LOTS of Signature that's higher of the Concurrent Playerbase overall and/or getting their YouTubers/Streamers who are under the Gaijin Partnership Program to voice for a Tank Only Battle mode.

Hope this Info helps or Delete if Off-Topic (Please don't Hammer me)

[Punished Prigozhin]

Gaijin will probably never add a tank only mode but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to balance Tank RB, Some people say ♥♥♥♥ like "just use ur MG's", yeh alright, let me just shot down a mach 1 jet with nords with my 7mm MG, cool, Air to Ground missiles are completely broken at top teir, their isn't a tank that has ANY counter to ATGM's.

Some people state that having planes punishes campers when in reality it mostly affect those being active and trying to play the objective, why would a player in a plane bother with trying to find campers when it can spot a tank moving in the open? or when he gets notified that an enemy is capturing and point? unless he goes for a revenge kill, he is most likely gonna go for those that aren't camping and can be easily spotted.

There are several ways Gaijin can balance Tank RB, increase the SP required to spawn in a plane and inflated when equipped with bombs or rockets, make colaxial MGs and roof mounted MGs do more damage to plane models, any MG besides .50cal, 12.7mm DSHK, or 20mm is effectively useless and does almost no damage, even if the plane is flying straight at you, your not gonna have enough time to aim your MGs at him and kill him, and firing your main gun isn't also a solution as even if you hit and kill him, hes most likely gonna be able to drop his bombs on you any way,

Gaijin inflates the costs of tanks because they're to effective against other tanks but doesn't take into account that every tank is extremely easy to be destroyed by a plane, especially if your in an open top tank, don't bother taking them out, your basically a free kill to air players.

[Blitzkrieg_HOSS]

CAS spam is nightmarish, especially for anyone facing the US around 4.3 to even 6.7.
P-47s with their loadout just nuke everything.

[Kay]

Adding this mode would split the playerbase more than it already is split, increasing queue times (sometimes significantly so) so it would have an effect on GFAB/RB too.

This is why people who wouldn't play it don't really want it added, as much as I agree that CAS has a huge advantage over tanks, I don't think a new mode is the right way to go about it.

[11hunter22]

I agree with kiagh. Queue times.

[Lunovus]

Convince the snail queue times aren't affected.

Since this won't be the case:
Convince them that the effect on queue times is negligible

And that adding this one of a kind "special mode" won't lead to more begging for more "special modes" with special properties.


But you're wasting your time.

And you telling other's what on-topic and what isn't is just rude.

Because given the history of people asking for a ground only mode, you're wasting your time, and so telling you that you are wasting your time is on-topic.

You may not want to hear it, but that doesn't make it off-topic.

The same way most of the other things you listed as off-topic aren't really off-topic when it comes to discussing this subject.

It's like you pretend to want to talk about gun control, but people being killed with guns is off-topic because that's part of another totally different discussion or something.

This is not YOUR forum thread where you make the rules what's on-topic and what's not.
You're not OWNING this thread.
You just started it.

People are free to openly talk about their opinions regarding the subject on this thread.

You're not entitled to limit them or only read what you want to read.

Either deal with it, or the mods will.

[burg4401]

no thank you.

there is no point giving YOU reasons, you don't listen as it is not what you want to hear.

the fact that you ask for a thumbs up or down on everything shows you don't read what is going on already where that is going on and don't care for another subject.

nothing like sending mixed messages from the community because of several actions all doing the same thing.

All you are asking for is to water down the protest that is sort of going on now so Gaijin can ignore it.

well done.

funny, you did say you were going to keep posting this thread OVER AND OVER again and it seems the mods are going to let you.

[[82AD] danielcave87]

I have been following these threads closely. There is a problem you can't say yes to a To mode without saying what's bad about RGB in your own opinion. And that's not really off topic it's a reason to support.

TO mode is a good idea IMHO some people want to just tank. I have no problem with this. But there is a reason to why I belive this to be a good idea.

RGB has a cas problem atm. It's not planes but more how quickly they come into the battle.
When you kill a tank you elemanate a threat from the battle field. Atm you are not doing that. What happens is you kill a tank and then a plane takes its place with bombs so you have a bad equation. 1 enemy for tank 3 friendly tank. If this makes sence.

Yes it applys to both sides so yes it's fair. It's not a ballance issue it more of an enjoyable experience all round. Again this is my opinion I am no authority on how others see the game or the problem. If they see one at all.

[YerKiddin]

People keep chanting "queue times", but even if half the players went from RGB to tanks-only, (and those against this idea are always telling me I'm part of a tiny minority) that will just, at most, double the queue times. I think the real fear among a lot of players is that if tankers leave RGB, then it will get changed, and the good pilots will lose their gravy train.

I wasn't someone that wanted to get on forums. I like figuring out how to play on my own, and don't care to go reading what other people are doing. My first time to get on a forum in any game was here, where I wanted to play this game with just tanks. I've had plenty of other would-be tankers with me, and they keep quitting this game. I even brought 3 friends into the game, and none of them play it anymore. (Though my brother will play in custom battles with me)

When it did not work to get on the forums here, I went over to Gaijin's forum. That hasn't worked either. People keep telling me how more players don't want this to happen, and I can see they're right. The players that want this are leaving the game all the time. It is a pilot-centered game, though the pilots are quick to deny that.

The first tanks-only event I can remember was last fall. They limited it to just 8 to 9.3 BR, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. It was only for a weekend, and I could not tell where it hurt queue times at all, and had about the same wait, whether I played it or the regular RGB mode.

I am not really someone who reads reddit, much less some young and connected internet personality. I guess I need to make a friend of such a person.

If you look back at that first, closed post, I wasn't attacking people. One of the guys that came in to tell me what a bad idea this was actually complimented me on my reply. The fact I wasn't reporting people that were either attacking or derailing was what got that one closed. I reported too frequently, and that got the 2nd one closed. Now, I am trying not to report at all, but a mod told me this thread would be watched, so I'm less worried, but ready to report. I can see already that people are being better. :-)

[[82AD] danielcave87]

i commend your endevor, and your ability to bounce a few shells that have came your way with this topic.

i don't think your wasting your time either for what its worth.

keep up the work and work across all the forums you will soon pick up support.

every players voice and opinion matters both for and against. but i do honestly believe that the numbers that want this mode are as not (edit) small as people think or speculate.

[Kay]

Originally posted by YerKiddin:

People keep chanting "queue times", but even if half the players went from RGB to tanks-only, (and those against this idea are always telling me I'm part of a tiny minority) that will just, at most, double the queue times. I think the real fear among a lot of players is that if tankers leave RGB, then it will get changed, and the good pilots will lose their gravy train.

Bit of a conspiracy theory.

Doubled queue times is significant, a 100% increase in time spent waiting in the best case scenario.

Originally posted by YerKiddin:

I wasn't someone that wanted to get on forums. I like figuring out how to play on my own, and don't care to go reading what other people are doing. My first time to get on a forum in any game was here, where I wanted to play this game with just tanks. I've had plenty of other would-be tankers with me, and they keep quitting this game. I even brought 3 friends into the game, and none of them play it anymore. (Though my brother will play in custom battles with me)

I know a lot of people who have left the game too, most of which haven't left because planes exist in tank modes (in fact, a lot of them only really kept playing because of that)

At any rate, anecdotal evidence is poor evidence at best.

Originally posted by YerKiddin:

When it did not work to get on the forums here, I went over to Gaijin's forum. That hasn't worked either. People keep telling me how more players don't want this to happen, and I can see they're right. The players that want this are leaving the game all the time. It is a pilot-centered game, though the pilots are quick to deny that.

It isn't a pilot centric game. This coming from someone who is mainly a tanker. CAS is very strong in GFRB and sometimes in GFAB (though not as much due to how easy it is to shoot them down) but it's not the central focus, that would be ground vehicles of various flavours.

Originally posted by YerKiddin:

The first tanks-only event I can remember was last fall. They limited it to just 8 to 9.3 BR, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. It was only for a weekend, and I could not tell where it hurt queue times at all, and had about the same wait, whether I played it or the regular RGB mode.

That's because it was an extremely restricted event which only one or two nations really played (it ended up being mostly UK vs Russia) along with having only the 8.0-9.3 players with access to it.

Originally posted by YerKiddin:

If you look back at that first, closed post, I wasn't attacking people. One of the guys that came in to tell me what a bad idea this was actually complimented me on my reply. The fact I wasn't reporting people that were either attacking or derailing was what got that one closed. I reported too frequently, and that got the 2nd one closed. Now, I am trying not to report at all, but a mod told me this thread would be watched, so I'm less worried, but ready to report. I can see already that people are being better. :-)

It's something that does need honest discussions.

[Lafettie]

Ok.3rd Times the charm.

il be honest,i would be interested in said mode just because of revenge bombing.An easier solution tbh that Gaijin should consider is removing the Death cam so you cant see where the shot came from + you only get a name instead of said cam.

Also remove Helicopters ... i mean come on a KA-50 (i own that thing too for reasons) can easily get 8 kills in nearly 30 Seconds if you are fast enough.

[Trollslegur]

Ok, three times you gotta be told:

NO.

Wait times would increase.
That is bad.

Developers have said "no."
Because wait times would increase.
Which is bad.

Unless you can somehow convince that adding a Tonks Only mode would NOT increase wait times (which you can't) it isn't happening.

Also, this is on the wrong forum area.
This is a suggestion post which needs to be in that category, not General Discussions.

[ErickaUnlimited]

Originally posted by Lunovus:

This is not YOUR forum thread where you make the rules what's on-topic and what's not.
You're not OWNING this thread.
You just started it.

People are free to openly talk about their opinions regarding the subject on this thread.

You're not entitled to limit them or only read what you want to read.

You are correct. Differing opinions are welcome just as those that agree. I think that is where the confusion laid in the last thread, as people started bickering over that fact.

This is an open forum where anyone is welcome to post their thoughts on the topic at hand as long as the simple rules [forum rules, not OP's] are followed. ^_^//