Best belts for Hispano Mk2 and 7.7 browning?

[nurru47]

Could anybody please advise me on this?

[Scheneighnay]

Tracers on the 7.7 browning, default (believe it or not) on the hispano mk ii
Default on the hispano mk ii is 50% HEFI, which isn't as good as Air Targets, but Air Targets doesn't have tracers, making it more difficult to use than I believe it's worth.

[Dr.Pepsi Man]

the one that kills planes yw

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by space cowboy:

Stealth on both

Stealth on the 7.7s holds no advantage over tracers and only cripples you by taking out the tracers.
Stealth on hispanos is hands-down the worst belt available in every way.

Stealth belts are are always mediocre at best, and the stealth meme needs to die.

[I II II I_]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by space cowboy:

Stealth on both

Stealth on the 7.7s holds no advantage over tracers and only cripples you by taking out the tracers.
Stealth on hispanos is hands-down the worst belt available in every way.

Stealth belts are are always mediocre at best, and the stealth meme needs to die.

Actually stealth on Hispanos is a lot more versitile because while it does not shred fighters as effectively, it has some AP which lets you get pilot snipes and deal with larger planes much more effectively.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by space cowboy:

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Stealth on the 7.7s holds no advantage over tracers and only cripples you by taking out the tracers.
Stealth on hispanos is hands-down the worst belt available in every way.

Stealth belts are are always mediocre at best, and the stealth meme needs to die.

What are you talking about?
Stealth on hispanos brings the same air targets belt but with an extra AP
As in for 7.7s, they're meant to don't alert your enemies, but if you wanna play full tracers it's your choice.

It's not an extra AP, it's a higher percentage of AP, which isn't useful on a 20mm.

Losing tracers barely has any impact on "stealth"- you usually don't need to see tracers to know you're getting shot at. Plus if you're missing to often that they need to see the tracers and no hit indicators, you're going to miss even more often without the tracers to help you correct your aim.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Stealth on the 7.7s holds no advantage over tracers and only cripples you by taking out the tracers.
Stealth on hispanos is hands-down the worst belt available in every way.

Stealth belts are are always mediocre at best, and the stealth meme needs to die.

Actually stealth on Hispanos is a lot more versitile because while it does not shred fighters as effectively, it has some AP which lets you get pilot snipes and deal with larger planes much more effectively.

20mm HEF is always better than 20mm AP against planes. Armor is only an issue when you're not using an explosive shell to blast chunks of the plane off.

[Spaddobird]

The one with the most HE for the cannons. Whatever you like in the MGs you will not be getting kills with those.

[I II II I_]

Overall you should probably use default or tracer ammunition for the 7.7s, or if you really want to be stealthy then stealth belts, but as someone else said before me, they dont have that much of an impact. For the 20s I recommend default if you are playing tank battles so you can kill light tanks and SPAA more effectively, Air targets for if you want to be able to tear fighters apart and and stealth if you want to be able to deal with bombers a bit better.

[Amenogun]

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

Overall you should probably use default or tracer ammunition for the 7.7s, or if you really want to be stealthy then stealth belts, but as someone else said before me, they dont have that much of an impact. For the 20s I recommend default if you are playing tank battles so you can kill light tanks and SPAA more effectively, Air targets for if you want to be able to tear fighters apart and and stealth if you want to be able to deal with bombers a bit better.

Are air target rounds visible?

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ︻デ┳═ー - - - - -🔥:

Are air target rounds visible?

It depends on the gun. Air targets on the German cannons have tracers as well as stealth, air targets on British hispano cannons are all stealth.

[I II II I_]

Originally posted by ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ︻デ┳═ー - - - - -🔥:

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

Overall you should probably use default or tracer ammunition for the 7.7s, or if you really want to be stealthy then stealth belts, but as someone else said before me, they dont have that much of an impact. For the 20s I recommend default if you are playing tank battles so you can kill light tanks and SPAA more effectively, Air targets for if you want to be able to tear fighters apart and and stealth if you want to be able to deal with bombers a bit better.

Are air target rounds visible?

No they are not. Air target rounds are basically what you use to tear the wings off of planes, while stealth belts are what you use to deal with bombers which have much stronger airframes and therefor can be a bit harder to kill with air target belts.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

Originally posted by ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ︻デ┳═ー - - - - -🔥:

Are air target rounds visible?

No they are not. Air target rounds are basically what you use to tear the wings off of planes, while stealth belts are what you use to deal with bombers which have much stronger airframes and therefor can be a bit harder to kill with air target belts.

"stronger air frames" have absolutely nothing to do with the AP in the stealth belts. AP continues to travel through the airframe and does nothing in particular.
HEF blasts it apart wherever it hits and the fragments catch crew members.

[I II II I_]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

No they are not. Air target rounds are basically what you use to tear the wings off of planes, while stealth belts are what you use to deal with bombers which have much stronger airframes and therefor can be a bit harder to kill with air target belts.

"stronger air frames" have absolutely nothing to do with the AP in the stealth belts. AP continues to travel through the airframe and does nothing in particular.
HEF blasts it apart wherever it hits and the fragments catch crew members.

Let me rephrase that. The additional AP from my experience has been muhc more effective at destroying engines and getting easy pilot snipes on bombers than air target rounds have been. Maybe that is just me but it seems like that is true.

[Chaotic Harmony]

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

"stronger air frames" have absolutely nothing to do with the AP in the stealth belts. AP continues to travel through the airframe and does nothing in particular.
HEF blasts it apart wherever it hits and the fragments catch crew members.

Let me rephrase that. The additional AP from my experience has been muhc more effective at destroying engines and getting easy pilot snipes on bombers than air target rounds have been. Maybe that is just me but it seems like that is true.

We're talking about aluminum that is like .10 of an inch held with rivets; when you chuck masses of explosives at it the strength of the airframe can only go so far. There's a reason the germans developed mineshot to pack more explosives in each shell; once you get to the point where you can shatter metal AP is pointless.

To answer the OP; on the 7.7's just use universals or tracers. You won't get kills with them at all; on the british i actually like Ground Targets for the hispanos. But that's just me; use universal or stock belts.

[I II II I_]

Originally posted by Chaotic Harmony:

Originally posted by W A K E M E U P I N S I D E:

Let me rephrase that. The additional AP from my experience has been muhc more effective at destroying engines and getting easy pilot snipes on bombers than air target rounds have been. Maybe that is just me but it seems like that is true.

We're talking about aluminum that is like .10 of an inch held with rivets; when you chuck masses of explosives at it the strength of the airframe can only go so far. There's a reason the germans developed mineshot to pack more explosives in each shell; once you get to the point where you can shatter metal AP is pointless.

I guess saying stronger airframe is a bit stupid of me. What I have seen though is that most of the kills I get with hispanos on fighters are by tearing the wings and tail off rather than doing damage to the engine, control surfaces (although this is probably due to there rarely being anything left of the plane) or killing the pilot. With bombers I seem to have to put a bit more ammunition into the plane if I want to kill it quickly with HE shells, where having some AP helps kill the pilot and kill gunners.