mbt-70 is pretty sweet

[ARE_YOU_0K]

its like a beefed up hellcat that oneshots everything.

[Tennes [GER]]

And get oneshoted by everything. Even T-64a's He-Frag-Grenade kill it frontally quite easily. (Did it in testdrive)

To be honest, I don't know what the best tier 6 mbt will be. But when I look at those smallish maps and current meta it will be either t64 cuz russia or chieftain mk. 10 cuz best apfsds/gun game with amazing backup vehicles. I killed MBT/KPz- 70 so easily with my Leo while struggling killing t64 and chieftain.

Unfortunately I could only unlock KPz-70 yet... :-/ and test drive t64a.

What do you think will be best mbt/lineup?

[ARE_YOU_0K]

Danny (GER) eredeti hozzászólása:

And get oneshoted by everything. Even T-64a's He-Frag-Grenade kill it frontally quite easily. (Did it in testdrive)

To be honest, I don't know what the best tier 6 mbt will be. But when I look at those smallish maps and current meta it will be either t64 cuz russia or chieftain mk. 10 cuz best apfsds/gun game with amazing backup vehicles. I killed MBT/KPz- 70 so easily with my Leo while struggling killing t64 and chieftain.

Unfortunately I could only unlock KPz-70 yet... :-/ and test drive t64a.

What do you think will be best mbt/lineup?

ive been playing tier 6 and armor means nothing, its point and click, first person to spot the other wins

[Mechanical_Lamb23]

Good this game needs more boom and zoom tanks

[Obamenau]

Danny (GER) eredeti hozzászólása:

And get oneshoted by everything. Even T-64a's He-Frag-Grenade kill it frontally quite easily. (Did it in testdrive)

To be honest, I don't know what the best tier 6 mbt will be. But when I look at those smallish maps and current meta it will be either t64 cuz russia or chieftain mk. 10 cuz best apfsds/gun game with amazing backup vehicles. I killed MBT/KPz- 70 so easily with my Leo while struggling killing t64 and chieftain.

Unfortunately I could only unlock KPz-70 yet... :-/ and test drive t64a.

What do you think will be best mbt/lineup?

The Leo also has useless armor yet was great in the past.
The MBT-70 essentially is a leo on steroids but without sh*tty ammo.
If it's APFSDS will go through some of the T64s composite it surely will easily the best tank.

[Tennes [GER]]

Well, KPz-70 's APFSDS penetrate the UFP of T-64. Its Turret is mostly immune (beside left and right of the gun).

Yet KPz-70 's APFSDS is a Tier 2 module now - so you have to front for it first.

I know that every Tier 6 can kill each other quite easily but you will also meet Tier 5 vehicles. Oh Boy, Leopard Chieftain mk.3 and 5 and m60's (without era) will have bad days killing T-64 from the front, on the other hand they will eat KPz for breakfast (since its armour is garbage).

That being said leopards ammo seems to be even more gimped now after hesh nerf.

[Obamenau]

Danny (GER) eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, KPz-70 's APFSDS penetrate the UFP of T-64. Its Turret is mostly immune (beside left and right of the gun).

Yet KPz-70 's APFSDS is a Tier 2 module now - so you have to front for it first.

I know that every Tier 6 can kill each other quite easily but you will also meet Tier 5 vehicles. Oh Boy, Leopard Chieftain mk.3 and 5 and m60's (without era) will have bad days killing T-64 from the front, on the other hand they will eat KPz for breakfast (since its armour is garbage).

That being said leopards ammo seems to be even more gimped now after hesh nerf.

I wouldnt be so sure about the MBT-70. Armor is the least important aspect of a tank in this game after all. Im convinced that it will the top dog out of all vehicles.

Just imagine what a skilled leo player can do with a new tank that is not only faster than the leopard, but also has a much better gun, better survivability and armor, ATGMs, a neato suspension and a tier 3 SPAA on top to finish things of.

But of course gaijin had to make its best ammo a tier 2 mod. Im actually surprised they didnt add some more "limitations" found in sekrit dokumentz for it.

[Katokevin]

Mindstream eredeti hozzászólása:

*snip*
But of course gaijin had to make its best ammo a tier 2 mod. Im actually surprised they didnt add some more "limitations" found in sekrit dokumentz for it.

Though, from the last dev server test, the MBT-70 and KPz-70 will start with the (quite poor) HEAT round and ATGM's, so at least it can still do some damage at range to some tanks.

ARE_YOU_0K eredeti hozzászólása:

ive been playing tier 6 and armor means nothing, its point and click, first person to spot the other wins

It can. KE projectiles are probably going to become the norm for Tier VI, but armor still does play quite a part. Take the T-64A and Chieftain Mk.10 as examples. The T-64A's hull and turret won't stop much in terms of APFSDS, but it is highly protected from shaped charges and HESH thanks to the rubber/reinforced glass fiber lining between the armor plates, giving that high protection from the HEAT rounds and spalling.

The Chieftain Mk.10's turret with stillbrew is VERY strong. Last dev server showing KE protection at 450mm and chemical 500mm, that leaves very few things able to get through that turret. If it stays that way, it will be a VERY dangerous tank if hull down, leaving it down to air attack, a lucky shot, or requiring an SS.11 or HOT missible to reliably penetrate it.

[Obamenau]

Katokevin eredeti hozzászólása:

Mindstream eredeti hozzászólása:

*snip*
But of course gaijin had to make its best ammo a tier 2 mod. Im actually surprised they didnt add some more "limitations" found in sekrit dokumentz for it.

Though, from the last dev server test, the MBT-70 and KPz-70 will start with the (quite poor) HEAT round and ATGM's, so at least it can still do some damage at range to some tanks.

Whilst your main enemies all have armor made specifically to defeat HEAT.... great.

Man why does gaijin do this ( it's similar with the RISE)?
With those stock shells you either are going have really awkward fights at your own BR or you're going to club the sh*t out of tier 5s with them.

[Katokevin]

Mindstream eredeti hozzászólása:

Katokevin eredeti hozzászólása:

Though, from the last dev server test, the MBT-70 and KPz-70 will start with the (quite poor) HEAT round and ATGM's, so at least it can still do some damage at range to some tanks.

Whilst your main enemies all have armor made specifically to defeat HEAT.... great.

Man why does gaijin do this ( it's similar with the RISE)?
It's stock shells are going to be really awkward to use in fair fights whilst you're going to club the sh*t out of tier 5s with them.

Well, we also have to mind that it will also face anything 7.7 and up, so your rounds will still be affective against them. Not sure what exactly you are asking about the RISE, could you be a bit more clear?

As for other Tier VI tanks it faces, the MBT/KPz-70 fighting each other will still do fine, and the T-64A still has an unprotected lower glacis (great for the ATGM's) as does the Chieftain Mk.10. Keep in mind you will still have the best mobility and adjustable suspension to give some help.

[Obamenau]

Katokevin eredeti hozzászólása:

Mindstream eredeti hozzászólása:

Whilst your main enemies all have armor made specifically to defeat HEAT.... great.

Man why does gaijin do this ( it's similar with the RISE)?
It's stock shells are going to be really awkward to use in fair fights whilst you're going to club the sh*t out of tier 5s with them.

Well, we also have to mind that it will also face anything 7.7 and up, so your rounds will still be affective against them. Not sure what exactly you are asking about the RISE, could you be a bit more clear?

As for other Tier VI tanks it faces, the MBT/KPz-70 fighting each other will still do fine, and the T-64A still has an unprotected lower glacis (great for the ATGM's) as does the Chieftain Mk.10. Keep in mind you will still have the best mobility and adjustable suspension to give some help.

I'm not really criticising the tank, but gaijins decision on ist ammo. They did the same with the RISE but worse by making its APFSDS a tier 4 mod.

It's such a stupid decision. Now it probably will be 8.7 which is way to low for the MBT-70, as it will further be worsening the already present compression issues

And if it actually gets a proper br then yaaay enjoy an excruciatingly painful stock grind.

[Katokevin]

Mindstream eredeti hozzászólása:

Katokevin eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, we also have to mind that it will also face anything 7.7 and up, so your rounds will still be affective against them. Not sure what exactly you are asking about the RISE, could you be a bit more clear?

As for other Tier VI tanks it faces, the MBT/KPz-70 fighting each other will still do fine, and the T-64A still has an unprotected lower glacis (great for the ATGM's) as does the Chieftain Mk.10. Keep in mind you will still have the best mobility and adjustable suspension to give some help.

I'm not really criticising the tank, but gaijins decision on ist ammo. They did the same with the RISE but worse by making its APFSDS a tier 4 mod.

It's such a stupid decision. Now it probably will be 8.7 which is way to low for the MBT-70, as it will further be worsening the already present compression issues

And if it actually gets a proper br then yaaay enjoy an excruciatingly painful stock grind.

For the MBT/KPz-70, I can see the justifacation in the BR. Stock spaced armor, adjustable suspension, very high mobility, stock HEAT (again, not great) but also ATGM's (that were free to shoot in the dev server), but nothing special in armor. The RISE having APFSDS as a Tier VI mod and only having add on ERA that is easily blown off (in a zone where KE rounds will probably dominate) is just a bad idea in my view.

8.7 I think is fine for KPz-70, but if the MBT-70 does get its longer reload to about 10 seconds, I could see it needing a bit of a lower BR, possibly 8.0. KPz-70, with all it is and its fast reload is ok at 8.7 in my view. But I can only assume they will have a high BR untill they have more tanks to actually fill the 8.7 range.

[Obamenau]

Katokevin eredeti hozzászólása:

Mindstream eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not really criticising the tank, but gaijins decision on ist ammo. They did the same with the RISE but worse by making its APFSDS a tier 4 mod.

It's such a stupid decision. Now it probably will be 8.7 which is way to low for the MBT-70, as it will further be worsening the already present compression issues

And if it actually gets a proper br then yaaay enjoy an excruciatingly painful stock grind.

For the MBT/KPz-70, I can see the justifacation in the BR. Stock spaced armor, adjustable suspension, very high mobility, stock HEAT (again, not great) but also ATGM's (that were free to shoot in the dev server), but nothing special in armor. The RISE having APFSDS as a Tier VI mod and only having add on ERA that is easily blown off (in a zone where KE rounds will probably dominate) is just a bad idea in my view.

8.7 I think is fine for KPz-70, but if the MBT-70 does get its longer reload to about 10 seconds, I could see it needing a bit of a lower BR, possibly 8.0. KPz-70, with all it is and its fast reload is ok at 8.7 in my view. But I can only assume they will have a high BR untill they have more tanks to actually fill the 8.7 range.

yaay the update released and both are 8.7... f*ck

Dus gaijin ever learn?

[PvT-Destroyer]

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