Arcade and Realistic Air Battles

[Distracted_Recon]

Just wanted to hear some thoughts about each gamemode for Air battles. What do you like about them and what don't you like? Which do you play more when you fly? I'll give my own opinion on it:

Most of my hours in WT have been spent in Arcade, both for flying and ground (Don't do naval very often) And I tend to play with 2-3 friends. Just today I started to pick up RB for flying and I like it. The way planes fly are nice and I have no problems with aiming or anything like that. My only issue is the speed of the games. I feel as if they're very slow paced and boring to play. Not to mention that if you die, you only have one plane... Which is fine but I feel as if I either fly around doing nothing until the game ends or I fly around and die going back to the menu. Both of these things are fine, I just feel it isn't rewarding at all. Some games I've gotten kills and I feel the same. You technically "work" harder to achieve that aerial victory but the setup for it is so painfully slow, I gain nothing out of it. Though the RP reward is nicer, I don't see the fun in it.

I also realise I've spent most of my time in Arcade and the pacing will be a big shift, but I can't see myself ever enjoying RB Air in the matches I've played. They're far too boring and slow for me to really enjoy fully.

[Buddy]

When I started playing this game I kept playing Arcade (Air) since Tanks and Ships weren´t implemented yet. In my opinion Arcade is good for getting to know the game and the vehicles.
Anyway, nowadays I prefer RB for Planes and Tanks ( I don´t really play Naval). While tank battles are sometimes slow and sometimes fast, air battles seem to be always a bit slower but I´m totally okay with that.

[Slyke]

It doesn't really matter what others think and prefer. These two game modes are so different that you if you like one you probably can't stand the other. I could tell you why I hate arcade and strongly prefer RB now, but it won't do anything for you (and it shouldn't). It's kind of impressive how they've manged to combined under one game several modes for people with directly opposite preferences.

[The King of Spades]

I prefer Arcade bc you can build BR trees and have an ability to adapt instead od being stuck with one plane and thats it like in RB. If RB air had a mode where you didnt just have that one aircraft id be all over it.

[D3stiny]

imo ab is just good for the beginning or jut to chill out and have fun cuz its funny how the planes are flying there. you just need find a plane that you like and fly it in rb. idk your playstyle, but its seems like or you very passive or very aggressive, maybe you havent realized yet when you need both in air rb. cuz you need patience in this mode, if not you will get baited and eventually ends up dead. when you will get crazy kills or you outplay an enemy, you will feel the satisfaction.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by D3stiny:

imo ab is just good for the beginning or jut to chill out and have fun cuz its funny how the planes are flying there. you just need find a plane that you like and fly it in rb. idk your playstyle, but its seems like or you very passive or very aggressive, maybe you havent realized yet when you need both in air rb. cuz you need patience in this mode, if not you will get baited and eventually ends up dead. when you will get crazy kills or you outplay an enemy, you will feel the satisfaction.

AB you can do well at more things consistently, with pretty much any nation.
All nations can ground strike, air superiority, bomb etc.
Its a bit more frantic and awareness probably helps that little bit more as there are far more targets at any given time, but it is also far more forgiving.
Also a great place to learn how to aim etc. Lead indicator helps early but it gets to a point where you barely even notice its there after awhile. By then Aiming in RB is a breeze.

Much prefer the flight characteristics in air RB though, but it does seem to cause issues at some BRs. As not all aircraft at the same BR are equal and not all nations had the same sort of flight performance.
RB you are far more reliant on your teams choices in aircraft. Too many players pick attacker, then right at the beginning you know its just become much harder to win.

[CaptainSpacetime]

I like the slower pace of air RB, rewards being patient instead of just full throttle into the hornet's nest. Plus you can do actual maneuvers in dog fights instead of AB which seems to just always be holding the S key and turning turning turning turning .

Plus everything handles the same as tank RB but you get to start in a plane instead of having to get some kills.

[Der Lachende Mann]

Totally agree with Curst here

Originally posted by Curst:

It doesn't really matter what others think and prefer. These two game modes are so different that you if you like one you probably can't stand the other. I could tell you why I hate arcade and strongly prefer RB now, but it won't do anything for you (and it shouldn't). It's kind of impressive how they've manged to combined under one game several modes for people with directly opposite preferences.

Though it's AB air for me, I like the faster pace, full use of my lineup, target-rich environment which I can actually take advantage of thanks to in-air weapons reload, Also I like the different modes, ground attack, domination and air dom, wheras RB usually boils down to one team running the other team out of planes.
And my wings don't rip off :)

Also (in my case) AB consistently holds better rewards, for both SL and RP.

[D3stiny]

Originally posted by Tomwyr:

Totally agree with Curst here

Originally posted by Curst:

It doesn't really matter what others think and prefer. These two game modes are so different that you if you like one you probably can't stand the other. I could tell you why I hate arcade and strongly prefer RB now, but it won't do anything for you (and it shouldn't). It's kind of impressive how they've manged to combined under one game several modes for people with directly opposite preferences.

Though it's AB air for me, I like the faster pace, full use of my lineup, target-rich environment which I can actually take advantage of thanks to in-air weapons reload, Also I like the different modes, ground attack, domination and air dom, wheras RB usually boils down to one team running the other team out of planes.
And my wings don't rip off :)

Also (in my case) AB consistently holds better rewards, for both SL and RP.

what is your profit in average game in ab?

[Distracted_Recon]

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

Originally posted by D3stiny:

imo ab is just good for the beginning or jut to chill out and have fun cuz its funny how the planes are flying there. you just need find a plane that you like and fly it in rb. idk your playstyle, but its seems like or you very passive or very aggressive, maybe you havent realized yet when you need both in air rb. cuz you need patience in this mode, if not you will get baited and eventually ends up dead. when you will get crazy kills or you outplay an enemy, you will feel the satisfaction.

AB you can do well at more things consistently, with pretty much any nation.
All nations can ground strike, air superiority, bomb etc.
Its a bit more frantic and awareness probably helps that little bit more as there are far more targets at any given time, but it is also far more forgiving.
Also a great place to learn how to aim etc. Lead indicator helps early but it gets to a point where you barely even notice its there after awhile. By then Aiming in RB is a breeze.

Much prefer the flight characteristics in air RB though, but it does seem to cause issues at some BRs. As not all aircraft at the same BR are equal and not all nations had the same sort of flight performance.
RB you are far more reliant on your teams choices in aircraft. Too many players pick attacker, then right at the beginning you know its just become much harder to win.

I noticed this in the matches I played and it's understandable why aircraft choice matters and why communication would be important. Though my other friends don't play RB, which means I solo queued. In many of my games, my teammates rarely stayed in any sort of cohesive formation as well or at least a basic one to help each other out. Instead, they blew far ahead of me and I noticed I was left in the dust. Then before I know it, the match is over. This put me off from really playing RB as well tbh.

These occurrences could have been flukes and maybe I just had poor matches. But if many people auto pick Attackers then charge full steam ahead as I saw, it kinda turns me away from playing more of it.

[The King of Spades]

Originally posted by D3stiny:

Originally posted by Tomwyr:

Totally agree with Curst here



Though it's AB air for me, I like the faster pace, full use of my lineup, target-rich environment which I can actually take advantage of thanks to in-air weapons reload, Also I like the different modes, ground attack, domination and air dom, wheras RB usually boils down to one team running the other team out of planes.
And my wings don't rip off :)

Also (in my case) AB consistently holds better rewards, for both SL and RP.

what is your profit in average game in ab?

Ive pulled in over 175,000 on a 13 and 0 match with my FW 190 C. I average about 60000 on a normal game. You can earn well over 200000 in a game if you manage to bomb pillboxes and other tanks, and then jump in a fighter and Erich Hartmann the rest of the game.

[Futuristic Hexagon]

AB can be fun due to the quick action, though I don't like the fact that it encourages shooting from unrealistic distances, and everyone gets a "shoot me here" sign, and that's the number one thing. That does put me off.

I would complain also about mixed lineups too, but it is a thing in RB now too due to the servers not being as busy as they used to be.

Long story short, I agree with Buddy's response too. AB is great for getting an idea of how to play WT, and I also feel it's great if you want a few quick matches (important considering how long queue times can get in RB Air.)

[MaxShuShu]

I tried air RB in test flight. The flying is wobbly and unstable compared to arcade. So not playing RB yet until i get better at it.

[tkhanh11]

Arcade = fast and easy action
RB = longer but require more skills and knowledge.

[Shard]

AB is more fast paced and overall, unless you are very good, better for grinding. What I like is that you can actually spawn multiple times and there is near instant action. What I dislike is that most of the time it just turns into a small sphere where 7 guys are trying to outturn eachother.... Meh

RB is more long winded and requires more tactic and strategic thinking. Strategies beyond turn fighting are way more prevalent. Also, ammo consumption is actually a factor. What I dislike is that some maps (English Channel... bruh) are too big. I think some preperation time is important, but I don't need 10 minutes of flying straight.

I usually use planes in tank RB, primarily to kill enemy CAS. Planes in tank RB aren't nearly as proficient as people in air RB, so if you want thrilling fights you won't get them most of the time. However, if you have someone mildy competent there for once, the air isn't cluttered to the brim and you can quickly get into combat. Still not good if you dislike tanks.

[76561198315424152]

Originally posted by Curst:

It doesn't really matter what others think and prefer. These two game modes are so different that you if you like one you probably can't stand the other. I could tell you why I hate arcade and strongly prefer RB now, but it won't do anything for you (and it shouldn't). It's kind of impressive how they've manged to combined under one game several modes for people with directly opposite preferences.

Liked both about just as much. Weather i flew R or A depended on the mood or the squads curremt preference. If someone wanted to fly realistoc or not i was all for it, but enduring confrontation in R would and will be muuch better.

If i felt like playing in a high tempo i went arcade, if i wanted to chill out more i played R. None is more difficult than the other imo, just requires different playstyles and tactics.









Just gonna edit this in here too.

+Constant access to R realistic air enduring confrontation.



changing vehicle setups every 2 days or so on a bit random auto roll.



Leave a voting option on the ec setups/available vehicles for each ec, and those that gets a high score, let those setups have a higher probability of returning in the roll of enduring confrontation.



Have a limit so that one single ec setup can be active max once in a week


....would like to see this added til i get back to playing.