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Pros and Cons for every faction?
I just started playing this game again after awhile and alot has changed and I want to find a faction to focus on but I don't know which yet and I was wondering if anyone could help! I mostly play plane RB but any input on ground RB would be great as well!
Originally posted by jaxjace:
Britain
Air superiority, good Armor and good penetration, low speed, low post pen, okay CAS Meta planes, tottally unmeta ground forces

America
Air superiority, Speed/turret traverse/stabilization and great CAS, low penetration early on. Highly meta

Germany
Multirole airplanes, high pen, high post pen damage, good CAS, powerful cannons on planes, unsloped armor and not enough of it, lack of high speed TDs. Meta 50% of the time.

Russia
Anemic airforce early on but rivals USA later on, great sloped armor and just enough of it, okay speed, terrible gun depression, somewhat low pen but insane post pen damage, innacurate and innefeciant cannons on planes. Very meta early on but fall off in high tier, held up high tech missiles, SPAA, and helos.

Japan
Turn fighters? hes got that. Later on the airforce falls off a bit. No armor to speak of and the penetration is lacking but the post pen is unrivaled, several outlandish designs, poor crew survivability, planes light on fire easy. Not meta at all.

Italy
Excelent planes, not a lot of them, armor is lacking or absent entirely, guns are average, speed is supreme, lots of fast light vehicles and tank destroyers. Highly meta.

France
terrible airforce until late tier, pretty garbage ground forces overall till top tier, Eurocopters with cannons unlike germany, lots and lots of autocannons for all. Niche and not meta.

Sweden
high tech Air superiority, high tech tank ammunition, extra armor plating on british and german tanks, S tanks, small tree. not meta, YET.

China
when an american tree and a russian tree love eachother very much they...:steammocking:


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Air RB? can't help you there, air AB I'd say US, greatly helped me getting close to 500 million SL... All I know is, RB air players generally are rather poor, SL wise.
Pozieres Jul 2, 2020 @ 7:44am 
The brits have many nice planes but some horrid tanks.

The US has great modern air and tanks but the early stuff is meh.

Germans have nice tanks and planes up to rank 5 then just blends in with everything else.

Italians and french are fairly weak for choice but they have one or two units that shine like the mirage and sidam.

Sweeds I dont know about yet, they look OK but they have no choppers and the same flaw as the french in that they have limited options in the lineups.

Chinese are a carbon copy of the USSR but not as good. no helis

Japan is like the germans with unique units at lower ranks but then end up just being units from other countries.

USSR MBTs are good as well as their Air but they have a limited lineup at higher battle ranks. KA52 is nice too.


Last of all I would say think about the possibilty of even more modern units getting added such as the F14, you may want to select a tree based on what could come. if you just want WW2 stuff then it is already there
Lunovus Jul 2, 2020 @ 7:45am 
Too lazy to write a lot because of the broad question so:
Try the Swedes.
Nice planes, nice tanks, and they're new.

You'll start from the bottom so get a new feel for the game again.
try out china its a mish mash of everything play until you find something you like.
Weird Beard Jul 2, 2020 @ 8:27am 
The game is heavily biased towards the USSR to the point that it is a continuous running joke. From weird hit boxes to the brit aim reticle being off center to underrating Russian BRs. ERA(T80), for example, should not stop a sabot round (brits). Play USSR if you want easy mode. Everything else is just flavour.
Originally posted by Weird Beard:
The game is heavily biased towards the USSR to the point that it is a continuous running joke. From weird hit boxes to the brit aim reticle being off center to underrating Russian BRs. ERA(T80), for example, should not stop a sabot round (brits). Play USSR if you want easy mode. Everything else is just flavour.

this is false, its going all the way towards usa.
Lunovus Jul 2, 2020 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by ╬Ģ◊иŽФ⚡∀mηЯΛ¥╬:
this is false, its going all the way towards usa.

This is false, it's going all the the way towards <Nation you don't play>.
If it's the High Tier of Tank....
German+Sweden < Other Nations
Huehue
Kay Jul 2, 2020 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Weird Beard:
ERA(T80), for example, should not stop a sabot round (brits).

Assuming you're talking about the T-80U then yes it should. It's Kontakt-5, a "heavy" ERA design that protects against both HEAT and APFSDS rounds.

During testing in Germany, a T-72 with Kontakt-5 could take a hit from an American 120mm DU APFSDS round without the round penetrating the tank. This is because the ERA lowered the effectiveness of the 120mm APFSDS penetrator to the point it could no longer penetrate the T-72's frontal plate.



Originally posted by Weird Beard:
From weird hit boxes to the brit aim reticle being off center

Unless you're using the aim from gunner's sight option or playing Sim battles (where everyone's sights are off centre, including the Russians) they aren't off centre. You may be experiencing shell dispersion, however every nation has that.
mooreshawnm Jul 2, 2020 @ 5:30pm 
Originally posted by Ki'agh:
Originally posted by Weird Beard:
ERA(T80), for example, should not stop a sabot round (brits).


During testing in Germany, a T-72 with Kontakt-5 could take a hit from an American 120mm DU APFSDS round without the round penetrating the tank. This is because the ERA lowered the effectiveness of the 120mm APFSDS penetrator to the point it could no longer penetrate the T-72's frontal plate.
Comedy gold and my guess is you have little experience in this realm. No T72 made is stopping a 120 sabot.
BEEP! Jul 2, 2020 @ 5:36pm 
5.7 China win game done deal basically USSR but better lol and the easiest Nation to start at for Tanks USSR there cheep Repair cost all the way there there Tech tree essay to yous and teach you about proper angling plus most of the times there guns are 1 shots your best friend will be the t34s there's a lot of them but they all almost play the same and there so essay to yous new players can do good in them. Also another tip is start playing Arcade it teaches you map knowledge and good positioning on maps plus if you can play Arcade well it can be a very good Sliver grinder.If you want my uptake on other nations name the nation and I'll help how ever I can I have all nation to at lease 7.0 two of them maxed out but German and Sweden are at 5.7 so far. PS I main ground forces tanks so I can't help much on Air and Sea combat
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jaxjace Jul 2, 2020 @ 6:31pm 
Britain
Air superiority, good Armor and good penetration, low speed, low post pen, okay CAS Meta planes, tottally unmeta ground forces

America
Air superiority, Speed/turret traverse/stabilization and great CAS, low penetration early on. Highly meta

Germany
Multirole airplanes, high pen, high post pen damage, good CAS, powerful cannons on planes, unsloped armor and not enough of it, lack of high speed TDs. Meta 50% of the time.

Russia
Anemic airforce early on but rivals USA later on, great sloped armor and just enough of it, okay speed, terrible gun depression, somewhat low pen but insane post pen damage, innacurate and innefeciant cannons on planes. Very meta early on but fall off in high tier, held up high tech missiles, SPAA, and helos.

Japan
Turn fighters? hes got that. Later on the airforce falls off a bit. No armor to speak of and the penetration is lacking but the post pen is unrivaled, several outlandish designs, poor crew survivability, planes light on fire easy. Not meta at all.

Italy
Excelent planes, not a lot of them, armor is lacking or absent entirely, guns are average, speed is supreme, lots of fast light vehicles and tank destroyers. Highly meta.

France
terrible airforce until late tier, pretty garbage ground forces overall till top tier, Eurocopters with cannons unlike germany, lots and lots of autocannons for all. Niche and not meta.

Sweden
high tech Air superiority, high tech tank ammunition, extra armor plating on british and german tanks, S tanks, small tree. not meta, YET.

China
when an american tree and a russian tree love eachother very much they...:steammocking:


Last edited by jaxjace; Jul 2, 2020 @ 6:34pm
rigolgm Jul 2, 2020 @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by Pozieres:
The brits have many nice planes but some horrid tanks.

The US has great modern air and tanks but the early stuff is meh.

Germans have nice tanks and planes up to rank 5 then just blends in with everything else.

Italians and french are fairly weak for choice but they have one or two units that shine like the mirage and sidam.

Sweeds I dont know about yet, they look OK but they have no choppers and the same flaw as the french in that they have limited options in the lineups.

Chinese are a carbon copy of the USSR but not as good. no helis

Japan is like the germans with unique units at lower ranks but then end up just being units from other countries.

USSR MBTs are good as well as their Air but they have a limited lineup at higher battle ranks. KA52 is nice too.


Last of all I would say think about the possibilty of even more modern units getting added such as the F14, you may want to select a tree based on what could come. if you just want WW2 stuff then it is already there

Statistics I've seen suggest that early usa tanks are strong but later usa tanks weak.
Last edited by rigolgm; Jul 2, 2020 @ 6:35pm
Originally posted by jaxjace:
Britain
Air superiority, good Armor and good penetration, low speed, low post pen, okay CAS Meta planes, tottally unmeta ground forces

America
Air superiority, Speed/turret traverse/stabilization and great CAS, low penetration early on. Highly meta

Germany
Multirole airplanes, high pen, high post pen damage, good CAS, powerful cannons on planes, unsloped armor and not enough of it, lack of high speed TDs. Meta 50% of the time.

Russia
Anemic airforce early on but rivals USA later on, great sloped armor and just enough of it, okay speed, terrible gun depression, somewhat low pen but insane post pen damage, innacurate and innefeciant cannons on planes. Very meta early on but fall off in high tier, held up high tech missiles, SPAA, and helos.

Japan
Turn fighters? hes got that. Later on the airforce falls off a bit. No armor to speak of and the penetration is lacking but the post pen is unrivaled, several outlandish designs, poor crew survivability, planes light on fire easy. Not meta at all.

Italy
Excelent planes, not a lot of them, armor is lacking or absent entirely, guns are average, speed is supreme, lots of fast light vehicles and tank destroyers. Highly meta.

France
terrible airforce until late tier, pretty garbage ground forces overall till top tier, Eurocopters with cannons unlike germany, lots and lots of autocannons for all. Niche and not meta.

Sweden
high tech Air superiority, high tech tank ammunition, extra armor plating on british and german tanks, S tanks, small tree. not meta, YET.

China
when an american tree and a russian tree love eachother very much they...:steammocking:
Overall if you were to grind out one tech tree which would it be?
Slyke Jul 2, 2020 @ 7:54pm 
You're asking for a lot of thinking and decision making to be done on your behalf. Just go with what looks interesting to you and switch to something else if it doesn't work out. You can clearly see what a nation offers by tier 2-3 and getting there doesn't require a lot of time. Or maybe read up some more on more specific things instead of delegating everything to strangers on the internet.
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