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Cadako Jun 19, 2020 @ 11:31am
5.0+ A Joke For American Tanks?
Seriously getting my ass handed to me 5.0+ by most other tanks in my American tanks to the point where I just think as per my title, that American tanks are just a joke. I know German tanks were superior IRL but I swear, if it's not a side armor shot, it's either a ricochet or a non pen. Any tips for where to hit Panzers, Tigers and Panthers?
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BEEP! Jun 19, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Cadako:
Seriously getting my ♥♥♥ handed to me 5.0+ by most other tanks in my American tanks to the point where I just think as per my title, that American tanks are just a joke. I know German tanks were superior IRL but I swear, if it's not a side armor shot, it's either a ricochet or a non pen. Any tips for where to hit Panzers, Tigers and Panthers?
The 5.7 lineup is rather good i can usually get four to five kills every match died once or twice about the 5.3 Jumbo's and the 5.7 Sherman they're just they need to be down. Cuz they just don't hold up at their br that 5.3 the Jimbo's armor doesn't mean anything close range and at firing range the gun doesn't mean anything too far away you can't kill anything except light armored targets or side shots to close your armor is sub poor and even still frontal armor shots from your 75 mm gun still doesn't hold up it's a 3.3 gun that can face 6.3 and you fight those 6.3 a lot more than you would think about 70 to 80% of the times you're fighting 6.3 so yeah not to mention it has a 5000 silver repair cost take two of those out do subpar decent and die in them you could still lose silver
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Col. Cornbread Jun 19, 2020 @ 12:44pm 
Where to shoot said tanks
PZ4
Anywhere with a 75/76

Tiger 1H
Flat front, flat turret, Turret neck, 60mm side armor if it is at an extreme angle, 80mm thick commanders hatch which will always be 80mm

Tiger 1E
As above minus commanders hatch

Panthers
Turret cheeks, turret flat parts, your rounds will go through, if its slightly angled go through its 40mm sider armor.

Tiger 2 P
Side and LOLpen its 100mm thick turret front

Tiger 2H/other variants
Side

Ferd
Side

Jagdpanther
Side


The main thing you want to do is Disable the ability for the enemy to return fire. Shots to the Big cats turrets will usually kill the crew inside of the turret, your follow up shot should either be aimed at the barrel to destroy it or back into the turret to kill the rest of the crew.

The Position of the turret on the 76 Sherman (not the M4A1) allows you to peak corners all while presenting a front that can deflect the panthers gun and the shorter 88s when you angle it. If the germans want to do the same to you they have to show their paper thin side armor before they can get a shot on you.

Always try to set up positions where you get the drop on the enemy and if they know you are there Let them push you so you can get easier shots on their weak points.

I still run 5.3 and 5.7 US lines and i'm at a ~65% win rate for the 5.7 lineup and ~60% win rate with the 5.3 one

When i get even more games in i expect them to drop to upper 50% which is fine.
Alkaline Jun 19, 2020 @ 2:55pm 
dont understand why your complaining. the m4 pens in this game are sooo OP. they are too unrealistic
Scrotum Scratcher Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:08pm 
5.0+ is a joke for US with the BR changes as the guns, armor, and even the speed cant hold up depending on the vehicle. just use p-47s and bomb everything.

the only good tanks in tier 3 for US are stuck at 5.7+ now (M4A3E2's, M18, M36, etc.) where they have to deal with tiger II's, Ru-251's, and various panthers so I advise playing in the air instead. US has a lot of CAS options at these BR's. The AD-4 in particular is a game changer with the 56 rockets if you have it.

you could try 5.3 but the M4A2 and M4A1 are both painfully slow, slower than the tiger 1 if i recall correctly, and the 75mm jumbo is a peashooter.

Originally posted by AlkalineHawk713:
dont understand why your complaining. the m4 pens in this game are sooo OP. they are too unrealistic

the pen sucks on their decent rounds, even the T-34-57 at 4.3 outperforms in penetration especially at angled armor and the germans obviously have better guns. APCR offers the best pen but is unreliable and wonky as hell while doing almost no damage. both USSR and GER get APCR at the same BR anyways.
Last edited by Scrotum Scratcher; Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:30pm
Pappy Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:37pm 
Wait to you hit 10.3 tanks - same sh-- ...
Get use to it -.......
BEEP! Jun 20, 2020 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Pappy:
Wait to you hit 10.3 tanks - same sh-- ...
Get use to it -.......
I refuse to play anything higher than a 6.3 or the very few 6.7 tanks it just starts going downhill after that point on the fun meter lol
EDSmike74 (Banned) Jun 28, 2020 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Cadako:
Seriously getting my ♥♥♥ handed to me 5.0+ by most other tanks in my American tanks to the point where I just think as per my title, that American tanks are just a joke. I know German tanks were superior IRL but I swear, if it's not a side armor shot, it's either a ricochet or a non pen. Any tips for where to hit Panzers, Tigers and Panthers?

All the game for the tree American faction is a joke.
Last edited by EDSmike74; Jun 28, 2020 @ 5:36am
R41D3R Jun 28, 2020 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by Cadako:
Seriously getting my ♥♥♥ handed to me 5.0+ by most other tanks in my American tanks to the point where I just think as per my title, that American tanks are just a joke. I know German tanks were superior IRL but I swear, if it's not a side armor shot, it's either a ricochet or a non pen. Any tips for where to hit Panzers, Tigers and Panthers?
just wait for 7.0 with the T34, 11k repair cost and gets sniped across the map 2km+ early game
Tunalemon Jun 28, 2020 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by EDSmike74:
Originally posted by Cadako:
Seriously getting my ♥♥♥ handed to me 5.0+ by most other tanks in my American tanks to the point where I just think as per my title, that American tanks are just a joke. I know German tanks were superior IRL but I swear, if it's not a side armor shot, it's either a ricochet or a non pen. Any tips for where to hit Panzers, Tigers and Panthers?

All the game for the tree American faction is a joke.
If you're not a brainlet the M18 is one of the best tanks in the game
OcGuy Jun 28, 2020 @ 9:26am 
Being uptiered to 6.7 and 7.0 in my 5.0-5.7 American tanks lineup already feels like a way of life for me
Pappy Jun 28, 2020 @ 11:20am 
Wait until US 10.3 tanks - allot worse . Just play 2.3 and save all the grief ... I'm sure you will be told 1.) GET BETTER
2.) DON'T COMPLAIN
3.) SHOOT THEM HERE, SHOOT THEM IN THE 3RD RIVET ON THE DRIVERS HATCH , ETC.
4.) IT'S A FREE GAME...
5.)THE DEV'S NEED CASH...
6.) QUIT

Bottom Line it's NOT the TANKS - It's the BS Ballistics and it's Bias used against the US Line UP..
Simple as that...
Stubbz Jun 28, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by OcGuy:
Being uptiered to 6.7 and 7.0 in my 5.0-5.7 American tanks lineup already feels like a way of life for me
Unless you have a 6.0 vehicle in your lineup you can't get uptiered to 7.0.
rigolgm Jun 28, 2020 @ 3:51pm 
I have spaded the usa tanks up to to 9.0br and play mainly 8.0br. They don't feel as competitive as the low tier usa lineups. Are just ok. I do well in the 6.3br lineup, despite its M26 being inferior (but the same br) as exported versions. I like my 8.0br usa lineup because it is quirky and has cheap repair costs. The 6.7br lineup is an interestingly wild mix of odd light tanks (plus the T34 heavy, which is good but costs a lot to repair).
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Holylin Jun 28, 2020 @ 3:53pm 
I think that the tanks are fine for the most part, but the munition sucks and there isn't really any choice to it. In addition they do not have smoke launchers or other stuff ...
OcGuy Jun 28, 2020 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Stubbz:
Originally posted by OcGuy:
Being uptiered to 6.7 and 7.0 in my 5.0-5.7 American tanks lineup already feels like a way of life for me
Unless you have a 6.0 vehicle in your lineup you can't get uptiered to 7.0.
I've tried few match without the 6.0 jumbo in, only the M4A3 and the M4A1 ( 76 ), I still encountered German M48 and Panther 2
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Date Posted: Jun 19, 2020 @ 11:31am
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