Non-Pen: The game

[76561198353851851]

No matter the range, no matter the shell, no matter the tank, 95% of my shots are non-penetration. If by a miracle it does penetrate, it's never a one shot, and then the said 95% non-pen happens again, and then one of their teamates just sneezes at me a bit hard and my tank just implode into another universe. It's getting really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard to have fun when the action of shooting just does not seem to work. For 9 nations, there's really only 3 viable: US, Russia and Germany (maybe britain too) or atleast thats the impression I get when I play. Since all my fights are against the allies in RB, I get DECIMATED by impenetrable, fast and powerful russian tanks. it's the sames with planes too. I just needed a place to rant my feelings because nobody talks to me. Look I'm not asking for the tank to do a fortnite dance when it gets a kill, I just want the action of "shooty boom boom makes tank kablawmo" to actually happens once in a while. I guess the only question in the end is: if the other nation's are so weak, why even add them?

[Straven]

Most tanks regardless of nation have the same spots you know you can kill said tanks so long as you manage to pen. You just need to take each tanks style of armor into account and look at what gun your tank has and whether or not your gun can and 'will' do the job from that angle you got on the enemy tank. If not you need to work towards an angle that will work, like catching a M4 or any other shermon with there belly/side facing you head on easy one shot kill here even without tnt filler if you hit it right.

As some have suggested look at the armors of the tanks, see what angles do to the armor value and if said tanks have any sides/space armor that'll eat your rounds it they hit there, like a churchills/kv tracks. And most of all use the Xray to see where the crew/ammo racks are stationed inside tanks, many tanks in a nation have there crew in similar spots/areas so knowing them well will lead over to the other ones quite well.

If you know you can't kill or cripple a tank your facing try and see it you can take out there gun, no gun no firing back at you. Otherwise work around if you can and/or call them out for your team, someone most likely has a bigger gun or a better angle to hit them from. Sadly this won't get you points per say but it'll get an enemy hard target out of your way hopefully.

I'd strongly advise looking up some guides telling you what each round type does and how they behave alongside where you can aim to take out a tank so long as you have a good enough pen to pen them. Knowing even a little bit where to aim at a well armored tank can win or loose you a battle, your going to loose some despite knowing or not simply cause crap happens and not everything will pen like expected.


P.S. Try ambush tactics sometimes, get a good spot where you can watch an area and turn your engine off, makes hearing an enemy coming your way 'far' easier and your mini map will let you know whether or not its an ally. Good way to let allies know someones coming from said direction if you don't take them out first with a side shot.

[Mechanical_Lamb23]

Some tanks just do not havegood pen, but they are very far and few between and are usually only in the very earliest part of the tree. Once youre past 2.7 the problem will disappear 99% of the time.

If the problem continues after 2.7, the problem is probably the gunner and not the gun. Excluding tanks with guns that start with bad rounds, which isnt too uncommon to be fair

[Shard]

Автор сообщения: Col. Cornbread

Please post the nation you are use.
The Tank you are using
The Shells in said you are using
and the Tank you are firing at.
If you can include Screen shots that would also be a plus.

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If you don't include any useable data, the "git gud" responses are pretty much to be expected.

[Wiesell]

I bet this guy is playing the 1.0 BR French tanks that got removed because it was using a 37mm gun from 1916.

[Slyke]

Автор сообщения: Wiesell

I bet this guy is playing the 1.0 BR French tanks that got removed because it was using a 37mm gun from 1916.

It's the only situation where what he describes can actually happen without MAJOR mess-ups from the player. He never said any specifics other than stupid made up statistics, though, so I don't know what kind of response he was expecting other than "git gud". It's not like any other advice is even possible without specifics. I'm guessing that's because advice on what HE can do for HIMSELF is not what he came here for.

[Wiesell]

Автор сообщения: Curst

Автор сообщения: Wiesell

I bet this guy is playing the 1.0 BR French tanks that got removed because it was using a 37mm gun from 1916.

It's the only situation where what he describes can actually happen without MAJOR mess-ups from the player. He never said any specifics other than stupid made up statistics, though, so I don't know what kind of response he was expecting other than "git gud". It's not like any other advice is even possible without specifics. I'm guessing that's because advice on what HE can do for HIMSELF is not what he came here for.

Seeing phly playing the tank I said, is really sad. He literally can't pen anything using that 37mm.

[Slyke]

Yeah, that French gun is ridiculous. It's the only cannon in game that can bounce off of BT-7 even from reasonably close range (as close as 300 meters I think), and that tank can be penned by machine guns.

[Suthirak_D42]

My Italian tanks just got nerfed.
Tier3 shells has less pen and can't snipe IS now.

[EDSmike74]

Since a few days 70% of my shots don't do any damage or just bounce off. This game is getting really strange. -_-

[Stridswombat]

Автор сообщения: Dr. Necrofeelya

no yeah im actually mentally challenged, I was using a 3.3 in a 2.3 line up because stupid me wanted to use the new tank I unlocked. thank grind thunder

What 2.3 can't deal with 3.3 tanks? If you know how to aim you can penetrate practically every single one. This still just sounds like a you problem firing, blindly without knowing where you need to shoot.

[NFG13]

Автор сообщения: Curst

Yes, "minor" nations are overall not on par with the main three (four) and it's an issue that can't be resolved. However, this is in no way connected what you've described here. What you've described is only connected to sucking at the game. Clean up your lineups, learn where to aim, learn to position yourself better.

Just a sec could you help me out, so I have the pz IV/70 v, I unlocked it yesterday, and I haven't had any fun in it. My gun nearly never works. Idk whether I'm trash but I get way more consistent games in the tiger h1, which has a worse gun?

Against jumbos I seem to always bounce. And against lots of other tanks due to being so low down to the ground the slopes armor infront bounces most shots. I barely get 3 kills if I'm lucky. But in the tiger h1 I've had games with up to 10 kills. Idk, pls tell me if you got tips

[76561198353851851]

okay so since a lot of people have been asking about specifics, heres the things to tell ye (normally I just get called a ♥♥♥ and I move on, not used to this O.O)

ITALY 2.3
M15/42 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39
Ju- 87 R-2 (I know its not a tank, I'm still complete ♥♥♥♥ in it )
M3A3 - M51B1/B2
AS 42 (aced) - Granata Mod.35 and PzGr 40
AB 43 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39

for the types of tanks I faced, I'd say allies, mostly Russia from what I've seen with british and US in the mix (I don't remember the names, as I haven't memorized every single vehicle with their armor rating)

[Stridswombat]

Автор сообщения: Dr. Necrofeelya

okay so since a lot of people have been asking about specifics, heres the things to tell ye (normally I just get called a ♥♥♥ and I move on, not used to this O.O)

ITALY 2.3
M15/42 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39
Ju- 87 R-2 (I know its not a tank, I'm still complete ♥♥♥♥ in it )
M3A3 - M51B1/B2
AS 42 (aced) - Granata Mod.35 and PzGr 40
AB 43 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39

for the types of tanks I faced, I'd say allies, mostly Russia from what I've seen with british and US in the mix (I don't remember the names, as I haven't memorized every single vehicle with their armor rating)

None of those should have problem penetrating armour if you know where to aim. All of them can penetrate what they face in a full uptier. Are you just shooting the sloped hull or what?

[Stubbz]

Автор сообщения: Dr. Necrofeelya

okay so since a lot of people have been asking about specifics, heres the things to tell ye (normally I just get called a ♥♥♥ and I move on, not used to this O.O)

ITALY 2.3
M15/42 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39
Ju- 87 R-2 (I know its not a tank, I'm still complete ♥♥♥♥ in it )
M3A3 - M51B1/B2
AS 42 (aced) - Granata Mod.35 and PzGr 40
AB 43 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39

for the types of tanks I faced, I'd say allies, mostly Russia from what I've seen with british and US in the mix (I don't remember the names, as I haven't memorized every single vehicle with their armor rating)

These are the weakpoints for the most common russian tanks you will see.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2126358931
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2126359406
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2126360514
I know its using the PZ III but these weakpoints work just fine for most guns in the game at this BR.

[76561198353851851]

Автор сообщения: Stridswombat

Автор сообщения: Dr. Necrofeelya

okay so since a lot of people have been asking about specifics, heres the things to tell ye (normally I just get called a ♥♥♥ and I move on, not used to this O.O)

ITALY 2.3
M15/42 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39
Ju- 87 R-2 (I know its not a tank, I'm still complete ♥♥♥♥ in it )
M3A3 - M51B1/B2
AS 42 (aced) - Granata Mod.35 and PzGr 40
AB 43 (aced) - Granata Perforante mod.39

for the types of tanks I faced, I'd say allies, mostly Russia from what I've seen with british and US in the mix (I don't remember the names, as I haven't memorized every single vehicle with their armor rating)

None of those should have problem penetrating armour if you know where to aim. All of them can penetrate what they face in a full uptier. Are you just shooting the sloped hull or what?

Well I try to shoot either the turret or just the body, but I'm using the APHEBC which is supposed to work for angled armor, so why isn't it working?