Why are M4 and T34 Variants so op?

[ุThe Man with a Pan]

Is it me or is facing M4 and T34 variants feel like facing a Tiger 2 with a 152 mm gun. I get it that T34 were good tanks in WW2 but M4 shermans? When did they become OP?

[Stubbz]

What nation are you playing? M4s and T-34s are good tanks but not OP.

[Zohan Dwir]

There are M4s with very low BR. Actually BR system is ♥♥♥♥, since it penalizes heavy vehicles. A tank with good armor and gun will have higher BR than a tank with poor armor and good gun. For some weird reason mobility is not taken into account so much and neither is the "visiblity" fake mechanics. So that will actually get you a battle with early ww2 tanks vs Oto R3 T20 armored car that zooms around like crazy and even has a stabilized gun.

[CharChar]

Are you, by chance, German?
German teams are bad bc ppl buy premium Tigers and have no idea how to fight aim for weak spots...or how to angle. Yeah, German mid-tier is just a ♥♥♥♥-show.

[Zohan Dwir]

Actually Tiger II Sla16 was one of the very few premium vehicles I didn't regret buying. But the game has totally fake damage mechanics. First hit disables your gun or turret ring like 80% of the time. Either the servers are full of cheaters that have some aimbots that aim for rings and gun barrels or the mechanics are fake as hell.

[Silent]

Shermans were never bad tanks and they're not OP.

[ุThe Man with a Pan]

Originally posted by CharChar:

Are you, by chance, German?
German teams are bad bc ppl buy premium Tigers and have no idea how to fight aim for weak spots...or how to angle. Yeah, German mid-tier is just a ♥♥♥♥-show.

Yeah I grinding in German like but no Premiums.

[torindechoza]

if you are using germans. The long 75 deals with shermans. The pz3 tanks can struggle. T34 you have to avoid shooting at angled armor.

[Stubbz]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1181579844037688152/9B06B15CC4C54F6F3E0F7C545C2DA0DF0E965FAD/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1181579844037691991/8639774AC75424B8D13AD54ED55BF956D3BD038D/


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1181579844037686225/93D6F18A9DFE7B04DF8E89B42F2970D8A7AEB5FB/

this is all with the Panzer III long 50mm. Shoot here and you can kill T-34s and KV-1 rather easily.

[mooreshawnm]

Stugs are the answer you seek.

[OcGuy]

Sherman stronk

[SwooshBear]

anything with sloped armor is pure rng to pen no matter what gun you bring. Kwk40 type of guns with similar pen and what not will go through most the time but theres a good chance you'll bounce. 88mms are unlikely to bounce, but its happened to me on occasion. anything bigger shouldnt bounce but on the very rare occasion will if you shoot it in a wonky spot. I've had t-34s bounce my panthers plenty of times before which is honestly just laughable more then frustrating lol

[Illusionyary]

The only Sherman that could maybe be classed as overpowered is the M4A3 (105mm) at 2.7, it has insane frontal armour for this BR but the gun is pretty mediocre and with only a manual turret rotation it's not the most practical. If you can keep the front always toward enemy though it's a nightmare to deal with.

[burg4401]

avoid shooting apcr as you REALLY need to know where to aim
best pen is NOT best pen, watch some what to fire and why vids on youtube.

If you can't kill something, use heat, it will pen, take more than one shot but will kill.

At low level german if it doesn't have heat i don't bother with it.

[R41D3R]

you can pen a t34 or a sherman from the front what do you mean? just make sure you're using the right shell ( i usually have 2-3 different types of shells ( high armor pen, something that has explosives in it, and a shrapnel shell ) )

[Perc]

Originally posted by CharChar:

Are you, by chance, German?
German teams are bad bc ppl buy premium Tigers and have no idea how to fight aim for weak spots...or how to angle. Yeah, German mid-tier is just a ♥♥♥♥-show.

Or maybe German teams are bad because I face Super Pershings. Centurions and cold war vehicles in my 5.3BR Tiger I