How the hell do you beat an equally skilled Yak 3 pilot in a 51?

[Badass_Ben]

Since i started playing this game, ive always heard "Russians Starve at ALT" however time and time again this isproven either false, or its too insignificant to actually provide an edge
In this game here, I side climbed to a very high alt, and this is what I see:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=949206394

Please someone tell me HOW am I supposed to deal with this?
Ignore the other planes, even in a 1v1 I feel utterly hopeless

If russians starve at ALT< WHY ARE THEY GETTING HIGHER THAN ME?
I started to try and fly away, he simply dived and caught up
I started perforiming a barrel roll withcombat flaps to force anovershoot, he simply one shots me.

Ive been away for a few months, and I hear Italians are also blatantly OP.
So what is my advantage here
What can I do?
Russians will be above you, period. They climb better, and they DO NOT STARVE at ALT to any significant degree.

[私は地獄を見たくない]

russian tanks

[urfrind.demon]

you cant do anything so if they climb just run away

[Semie]

Usually what I do is to wait until I'm 100% sure they're all low, then I just boom n zoom them. Never climb towards the enemy.

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by Biased Sherman:

Usually what I do is to wait until I'm 100% sure they're all low, then I just boom n zoom them. Never climb towards the enemy.

Lol believe me, i climbed to the SIDE of the map before turning in, but a Russian did the same

This is a fundamental problem with the game
Literally, Americns have ZERO advantage over someone who has also climbed to the side as just about EVERY faction will behigher than you

[Semie]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Originally posted by Biased Sherman:

Usually what I do is to wait until I'm 100% sure they're all low, then I just boom n zoom them. Never climb towards the enemy.

Lol believe me, i climbed to the SIDE of the map before turning in, but a Russian did the same

This is a fundamental problem with the game
Literally, Americns have ZERO advantage over someone who has also climbed to the side as just about EVERY faction will behigher than you

Backwards climb then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[doodwheel]

It's pretty much one of the best planes for its tier of all factions. I don't think gaijin would ever want to nerf their iconic stalinium vodka driven superplane. So yea you are pretty much screwed unless he happens to be a noob.

[Flagyov]

just pray and wait until he runs out of ammo (if you are dogfighting)

[Richard Nixon]

yak 3 is a 1944 plane encountering 1941-1942 german planes, 43 44 uk/us planes.
that's it. he is the most op plane at it's tier( with p-63, my opinion)

[jolttt☠︻デーFRIENDSgotGLITCHED!]

i dunno about this russian bias bs, ive played since 2015 and i still feel that its jus skill and cercumnstance

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by ♥♥ jolttt☠ ︻デ┳═ー.:

i dunno about this russian bias bs, ive played since 2015 and i still feel that its jus skill and cercumnstance

Then in the situation you see above, where I DID side climb, and did EVERYTHING an American pilot is supposed to do, how would you win?

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Originally posted by ♥♥ jolttt☠ ︻デ┳═ー.:

i dunno about this russian bias bs, ive played since 2015 and i still feel that its jus skill and cercumnstance

Then in the situation you see above, where I DID side climb, and did EVERYTHING an American pilot is supposed to do, how would you win?

extend, get to high speed in a shallow dive and maintain that speed which the russians cant match, if you drag the fight out over a long time by maintaining high speed then using your superior energy retention to climb again, wash-rinse-repeat, eventually through a series of shallow dives and climbs you will gain the energy advantage and at those altitudes the russians have no recourse to get it back

[icarus the improviser]

If you want a serius flight sim that is actually acurate, go play il2 1946, that game has its ♥♥♥♥ togheter, and its still the best flight sim to date after a decade of its creation, and with mods it doesn't look bad, nor old, it looks pretty damn good, just make sure you have a joystick.

you won't find highly historic acuracy here, especially in a free to play game where the goal is money, and where the devs attention are not solely to planes who are not even finished, they want to do to much, they are the jack of all trades, master of none.

[The Pangaean Gamer]

You're at at 17500 feet, that's what around 5300 metres? That's not very high, that's only a little over a thousand metres above where the Yak performs best.

When you start a fight you'll very quickly lose altitude, unless you're doing proper boom an zoom passes. Even then as a fight progresses altitude is traded for speed, it's unavoidable unless you disengage and climb some more.

With that in mind, since you're starting at only 5300m you're going to very quickly find yourself fighting at sub 4000m getting lower, which is where you don't want to be against a yak. This is especially true in a P-51, because the P-51 isn't actually that great.

Edit: Many Russian planes have very good climb rates at low alt that drop off quite a bit at higher alt. And the P-51 isn't anything special when it comes climb or acceleration or anything really. It's just reasonably fast and holds energy okay.

[Kotvogel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5krmU-c9YA Thats how you fly 51's when you are nuts. Fly the D30 ;) Learn chandells most pilots will fall into that works great with fast or fast climbing planes and you can get up to 600kmh with the D30 level flight on the deck. Check out Van Sinn he is an proper p51 pilot you can find him on YT tha should work better than giving you tips. I think you can pick up some tactics how to get the advantage when you are in the disadvantage (altitude) by watching some of his content. And dont get frustrated most pilots struggling with US but its a great faction with great planes when you have figured out how to fly them you will have a lot of fun but maybe it will take some time. A wingman is also an good idea with the Us - Isn t that in any other nation - Yes but you will benifit more in a 2 vs 2 or team situation were Us really shines cause you will really notice the speedadvantage Us planes have u can pretty much dictate the fight

[Pippi]

Originally posted by ♥♥ jolttt☠ ︻デ┳═ー.:

i dunno about this russian bias bs, ive played since 2015 and i still feel that its jus skill and cercumnstance

I totally agree. I have never had any problems facing the russians. It started as a meme and it seems that people who can't figure out how to deal with the russians just call it bias