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cat Jun 1, 2020 @ 7:34pm
why bf109Z removed?
i saved money to buy this think i did not find it is that a bug?
Originally posted by Pumba70:
Because it was bad and no one bought it, so Gaijin removed it from sale likely to add it back like they did with previous vehicles in sales, but not on sale because "reasons".
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Pumba70 Jun 1, 2020 @ 7:38pm 
Because it was bad and no one bought it, so Gaijin removed it from sale likely to add it back like they did with previous vehicles in sales, but not on sale because "reasons".
they're gonna make it an event vehicle so everyone grinds for it and uses the market to buy parts for it
Eftwyrd (Banned) Jun 2, 2020 @ 3:15am 
another contributing factor, if not the primary reason, was that it was the bf109z1 based on a pair of bf109gs bolted together which never flew in real life, the only prototype which ever flew was the z0 which was based on bf109fs. gaijins standards have changed over time and many players are extremely critical of that kind of thing existing in game
Last edited by Eftwyrd; Jun 2, 2020 @ 3:17am
Originally posted by Eftwyrd:
another contributing factor, if not the primary reason, was that it was the bf109z1 based on a pair of bf109gs bolted together which never flew in real life, the only prototype which ever flew was the z0 which was based on bf109fs. gaijins standards have changed over time and many players are extremely critical of that kind of thing existing in game
they can be critical all they want, no one can change gaijins mind besides maybe some big youtubers that change whatever they want and screw over high tiers, well they did a couple years ago anyway. they don't care about bug or map fixes, they only care about their precious market and making money. and before you say its a free game and the devs need to eat, they make GOOD money, they aren't starving waiting for their next paycheque.
CaptainSpacetime Jun 2, 2020 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Piggy:
Originally posted by Eftwyrd:
another contributing factor, if not the primary reason, was that it was the bf109z1 based on a pair of bf109gs bolted together which never flew in real life, the only prototype which ever flew was the z0 which was based on bf109fs. gaijins standards have changed over time and many players are extremely critical of that kind of thing existing in game
they can be critical all they want, no one can change gaijins mind besides maybe some big youtubers that change whatever they want and screw over high tiers, well they did a couple years ago anyway. they don't care about bug or map fixes, they only care about their precious market and making money. and before you say its a free game and the devs need to eat, they make GOOD money, they aren't starving waiting for their next paycheque.

what's that have to do with removing an imaginary plane
Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:
Originally posted by Piggy:
they can be critical all they want, no one can change gaijins mind besides maybe some big youtubers that change whatever they want and screw over high tiers, well they did a couple years ago anyway. they don't care about bug or map fixes, they only care about their precious market and making money. and before you say its a free game and the devs need to eat, they make GOOD money, they aren't starving waiting for their next paycheque.

what's that have to do with removing an imaginary plane
they didnt remove it because the community told them to. they removed it only because they weren't making enough money out of it. So chances are they're just gonna throw it in a grind event sometime in the future and force people to buy from the market if they want to complete the plane, then they get a cut out of every part sold on the market and a cut of the plane itself being sold.
Bf109Z is very fun to fly in AB
torindechoza Jun 2, 2020 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:
Originally posted by Piggy:
they can be critical all they want, no one can change gaijins mind besides maybe some big youtubers that change whatever they want and screw over high tiers, well they did a couple years ago anyway. they don't care about bug or map fixes, they only care about their precious market and making money. and before you say its a free game and the devs need to eat, they make GOOD money, they aren't starving waiting for their next paycheque.

what's that have to do with removing an imaginary plane
a prototype completed, means a real plane. Real as in the material plane.

ref: Messerschmitt Bf 109:the design and history, by Jan Forsgren
Illusionyary Jun 2, 2020 @ 11:21am 
It was removed well over a year ago...
Sgt. Walker Jun 2, 2020 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Pumba70:
Because it was bad and no one bought it, so Gaijin removed it from sale likely to add it back like they did with previous vehicles in sales, but not on sale because "reasons".

The plane performs insanely good in its intended role as Bomber Hunter in Air RB. Climbs like a beast, is rather agile and shreds everything it hits. Against Fighters try to Headon, one hit and they are done an the gun placement creates a shotgun-like pattern so little aim required.
HansGruber Jun 2, 2020 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Eftwyrd:
another contributing factor, if not the primary reason, was that it was the bf109z1 based on a pair of bf109gs bolted together which never flew in real life, the only prototype which ever flew was the z0 which was based on bf109fs. gaijins standards have changed over time and many players are extremely critical of that kind of thing existing in game

I don't think the 109F based Z0 ever flew either...

Didn't it get bombed to oblivion on the ground and then they just threw up their hands and said "F IT!" and abandoned the project?
Preditorian Jun 2, 2020 @ 5:48pm 
It came out, people did not buy it in the numbers they wanted so they removed it to make it seem more rare, but its still junk.

As stated before, it will come out in some pack with some remarks like "RARE" or "ONE OF A KIND" type of slogan in order to bait the people with more $ than brains into lining their pockets with more means to go buy some more vodka so that they may conjure up more ways to screw over the community who has spent years supporting them in the hopes they would get their act together.
Originally posted by Preditorian:
It came out, people did not buy it in the numbers they wanted so they removed it to make it seem more rare, but its still junk.

As stated before, it will come out in some pack with some remarks like "RARE" or "ONE OF A KIND" type of slogan in order to bait the people with more $ than brains into lining their pockets with more means to go buy some more vodka so that they may conjure up more ways to screw over the community who has spent years supporting them in the hopes they would get their act together.

I bought it, love it and still fly it. Went 9-0 in an AB match the other day. And by no means is it junk.... lol.
Preditorian Jun 2, 2020 @ 6:43pm 
Stats for the last month: AB huh? Anecdotal evidence?

F-82
Arcade Battles

Battles 656 <-----
Win rate 60.92% <-----
Air frags per battle 1.59
Air frags per death 1.45
Ground frags per battle 1.31
Ground frags per death

109Z
Arcade Battles

Battles 17 <------
Win rate 50% <------
Air frags per battle 2
Air frags per death 2.84
Ground frags per battle N/A
Ground frags per death

I am glad you like it, not taking that away from you, but focus on the number of battles played vs the win rate. I am sorry, but it does in fact, as in backed up by statistics, suck.
torindechoza Jun 2, 2020 @ 7:21pm 
Preditorian
win ratio as an individual vehicle stat does not mean anything about said vehicle, specially in air AB.
If you are the only one in the team with a 109Z and all your teammates and you respawn. 109Z is a very very low percentage of the total planes that your team used that match.
say 15 players each respawn 3 times 109z is 2.2 % of the team's planes. Hardly a deciding factor of the outcome of the match.
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