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Achilles Apr 30, 2020 @ 4:51pm
Incorrect repair cost for J21A-2
The images in the link below compare the two tier IV J21s repair costs.

https://imgur.com/a/4ezgGUH
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Eftwyrd (Banned) Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:23pm 
what makes you think the repair cost is 'incorrect'? its not even the worst in tier 4, i think that honour still belongs to the shinden for fighters, and the b29 overall

EDIT: checking the last economy update looks quite intentional to me:
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/484450-planned-changes-to-the-research-trees-and-economy/
Last edited by Eftwyrd; Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:33pm
Achilles Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:48pm 
It does not make sense due to the A-3 being able to have unguided rockets and bombs while the A-2 does not have the capability of equipping ordinances. Would you not assume that the repair cost be the opposite due to this fact? If that is indeed the correct repair cost, I simply require an explanation as to why the other J21 models have an incredibly less expensive repair cost also including the following aircraft in the tier IV category, the J26.
Eftwyrd (Banned) Apr 30, 2020 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by Achilles:
It does not make sense due to the A-3 being able to have unguided rockets and bombs while the A-2 does not have the capability of equipping ordinances. Would you not assume that the repair cost be the opposite due to this fact? If that is indeed the correct repair cost, I simply require an explanation as to why the other J21 models have an incredibly less expensive repair cost also including the following aircraft in the tier IV category, the J26.
you 'require' an explanation? or you'll do what? calm the f*** down mate and just ask if you have questions, dont assume something is wrong and make demands.

in most cases repair cost is based on an algorithm, gaijin have an expected average income per match for vehicles at each tier and they increase and decrease repair costs based on that vehicles average income over the last period to what it would have needed to be to meet that expected average

now that isnt without problems obviously, if a vehicle isnt used much and only by a small number of skilled players its repair cost is going to go through the roof preventing less skilled players from realistically using it without losing a lot of lions, so people being risk averse they dont and without the less skilled players using it its repair cost doesnt come down or even continues to rise

this is how its been for years though and for the most part its fine so i really dont expect anything to change
Last edited by Eftwyrd; Apr 30, 2020 @ 6:15pm
Achilles Apr 30, 2020 @ 6:53pm 
I specifically created my original post along with my replies to you here, Eftwyrd, in a calm, cool and collected manner. I avoided posting in any form that appears "negative", "ragey", "antagonistic" or anything that might imply relating to those forms. I did not use any expletives or insults towards any person or entity.

Anyway, I'm convinced this is a typo or mistake of some kind. Top tier jets do not even come close to the repair cost of the J21A-2. To illustrate this, the F-4C and F-4E Phantom's have a repair cost of roughly 10,000 - 13,000 Silver Lions. Now, one must ask themselves, does the repair costs of two modern jet fighters equate to one World War II propeller plane? This is in AB, of course.

Whether or not this changes, I simply find it interesting that such numbers were given to the J21A-2 and wish to share the information.
Eftwyrd (Banned) Apr 30, 2020 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by Achilles:
I specifically created my original post along with my replies to you here, Eftwyrd, in a calm, cool and collected manner. I avoided posting in any form that appears "negative", "ragey", "antagonistic" or anything that might imply relating to those forms. I did not use any expletives or insults towards any person or entity.

Anyway, I'm convinced this is a typo or mistake of some kind. Top tier jets do not even come close to the repair cost of the J21A-2. To illustrate this, the F-4C and F-4E Phantom's have a repair cost of roughly 10,000 - 13,000 Silver Lions. Now, one must ask themselves, does the repair costs of two modern jet fighters equate to one World War II propeller plane? This is in AB, of course.

Whether or not this changes, I simply find it interesting that such numbers were given to the J21A-2 and wish to share the information.
i already provided the reason as to why such high repair costs exist, they are not a 'mistake' and were anounced a week before going into affect with one of the mods posting it on this forum to make it more visible

as i said previously look at the shinden, both ta152s etc, these repair costs have existed in a select few aircraft for years and the j21 isnt close to the worst, to update my earlier statement the worst fighter i could find in tier 4 at a glance was the ta152h1 which doubles what you are complaining about in the j21 topping out fully spaded at more than 40k. this is because not many use it and those that do are apparently good enough to make buckets of lions so it gets an astronomical repair cost to compensate
Last edited by Eftwyrd; Apr 30, 2020 @ 7:03pm
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