F84 B : Flying Garbage

[chicks99]

Rant Incoming

BR 7.3 and yet can be out climbed and out run by a 7.0 F80. Yea make sense. The 50 cals? I shoot r2y2s and Me262s and either I get Crits or just "hits" Like bruh did I ask for crits? No I didnt, so give me the kill smh. Im even using APT rounds which is full tracer belt and I have yet to set a japanese plane on fire. Literally the F-80 I have more kills on (And I hate the hell out of the f80). The F84 is garbage because it cant turn,has bad energy retention, and literally can not do damage. I swear people say bad aim is the pilot's fault I highly doubt that. Give a noob a air to air missle and that noob will dominate, Give that noob a ballistics computer, that noob will dominate, give him a A6m2, that noob will dominate. Aim is literally based on 2 things, The turn rate and the drop of the projectile. Turn rate is literally a big factor in aiming.

The F-84 has a 30 second trash turn rate. I bet a bomber can out turn it. You need turn rate to aim because if you turn too slow your lead is going to lag behind the enemy. This literally happens every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ single match. No matter how much I turn this thing has the aerodynamics of a brick. Even so when I turn at 500 mph the wing literally snaps in half. Did I ask to fly something this structually unstable a P51 can out turn it at high speeds? N O . I was scammed 400k SL on this plane and 3 days of my life.

To anyone saying to BNZ with this obviously cant comprehend the horrible stats of the F-84. It has the climb rate of a 4.3 Bf109 and yet has less damage. The Bf109 G-2 Trop at 4.3 BR (RB) has something called a "Cannon" /ˈkanən/ (Introduction to word because a lot of Ww2 Americans dont know what this word means). Well anyways Im willing to bet 1 mine shell from that german 20mm cannon sitting at br 4.3 contains more explosive filler than all 1800 rounds packed in the f-84 B Im using. You see You'd think as the BR goes up everything gets better yes? NO, Im using a M3 Browning machine gun from br 5.0 and even that is still lacking. Why? Because it just doesnt blow up planes like a german cannon would.

Now you may question "If you're complaining about america why not just go back to playing germany?" Well my answer to that is because of something called Repair Cost and another reason Ill get to. You see, American planes have a dirt cheap repair cost to make up for the low win rate on their battles. However german planes have up to 40k repair cost for 1 death which means I would need to have a 3 to 1 kill ratio if I want a profit, which is stupid. Ive gotten to German Jets and to my dissapointment they don't know of the word "Air to Air Missile". Sure it shows up at 9.3 and the Mig 21. But the Mig 19 doesnt have it? Thats 10.3. Literally any 9.3 onwards is eligible for Air to Air missiles. But America? Throw that logic out the window missiles for all at only 8.3 BR! (Naval tree) Meanwhile my G91 R/3 at 8.7 gets pleb MCLOS Air to Ground missiles.

TLDR:
- F84-B, the B stands for Bad.
- Out turned by bombers.
- Cant aim when the turn is so bad because if the enemy turns a bit there goes all your effort.
- Wing Rips faster than my G91.
- using 5.0 BR Mgs meanwhile at br 7.3 (10 IQ Logic). Cant damage targets faster than 400 mph.
- Weaker engine than the previous jet yet is bigger.
- Aerodynamics of a Brick.
- Me262 better even though it same BR
- Told to BNZ but cant even climb enough to BNZ because other enemies are already there lmao.
- Saying "Get good" in the comments wont help you or I.

[Illusionyary]

If anything this just sounds like stock syndrome. The plane certainly isn't slow nor has bad energy retention but with stock performance it is artificially gimped. As an early jet you need to build up speed in a straight line and convert that speed into altitude. Just climbing from takeoff will take forever and you won't get very high.

Fly away from the battle straight until about 600-700kmh, then climb and continue doing this until at a sufficient altitude. It's laborious for sure but neccessary if you want to have any altitude before being bounced by enemy fighters.

As always too, keep it fast. I'd say above 600 at all time, 500 at minimum. Early jets accelerate extremely slowly so keep your energy and don't get suckered into an energy trap or turnfight. The F-84 is miles faster than the R2Y2 (which aside from its guns is pretty poor now) and sufficiently faster than anything German provided you have energy.

As for the guns, personally I really do not like 50cals on jets. Some people swear by them but I can't stand them. A good burst will decimate but I struggle to aim them at jet speeds, so not much advice I can offer there.

Statcards don't tell the whole story too, don't believe them. A 30s turn on the card doesn't translate into the same in-game (iirc statcard turn is full 360 with rudder so basically never gonna happen in RB).