Is the Mi-4AV even playable?

[SUN]

Just bought it and everytime i play it i cant get a single hit on an enemy let alone a kill.
I take off, fly to the battlefield and get instantly shot down by an ATGM or machineguns.
If i try going low and using cover i get killed with 2 machinegun shots
If i try going higher either AA shoots me down or an ATGM like the KPZ 70.
I played over 20 games with it and only got 3 kills, 90% of the time i didnt get a single hit.
I dont even have the tier one compressor researched let alone ATGMS.
Im really confused how this helicopter is in the game and how to play it.

[Hans The Bug]

Mi-4AV is actually just bad tbh, but then again one did a backflip at 10m and one shot my pilot while i was diving vertically on him in a G.91, so what do i know. but nah, it's not like you're bad at it, the Mi-4AV just has an utterly unplayable stock grind.

[SUN]

Thanks im just really confused why gaijin even has it in the game? Its just free SL and RP for anyone who spots it

[SUN]

Yeah but i want to unlock the mi24a, is there a way to do so without giving gaijin money

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Originally posted by =KGrWF=Radio_Demon:

Originally posted by Doritos Arabia:

Yeah but i want to unlock the mi24a, is there a way to do so without giving gaijin money

There is, if you go in ''events'' tab and find ''helicopter EC'' after you did that go to ''room list'' and try to find the maps under the name ''Vietnam'' or ''Tunisia''. Those 2 maps have a lot of ground targets at the back of the map, the key to get to them is on Tunisia flank from far in the ocean all the way to the back and on Vietnam as close to the edge of the map as you can. If you don't do this you will be killed by vastly superior helicopters and OP AAA guns. Then just try to find medium tanks and try not to get too upset while flying in that mode. I'd reccomend puting some music you like in the background as the flight is quite boring. Any more questions feel free to ask!

yeah i got a question, when's this virus pissing off so i can go back to doing my hobbies?

[SUN]

My only question is why gaijin doesnt either fix it or replace it with the mi8?

[Pumba70]

Originally posted by =KGrWF=Radio_Demon:

Originally posted by Doritos Arabia:

Yeah but i want to unlock the mi24a, is there a way to do so without giving gaijin money

There is, if you go in ''events'' tab and find ''helicopter EC'' after you did that go to ''room list'' and try to find the maps under the name ''Vietnam'' or ''Tunisia''. Those 2 maps have a lot of ground targets at the back of the map, the key to get to them is on Tunisia flank from far in the ocean all the way to the back and on Vietnam as close to the edge of the map as you can. If you don't do this you will be killed by vastly superior helicopters and OP AAA guns. Then just try to find medium tanks and try not to get too upset while flying in that mode. I'd reccomend puting some music you like in the background as the flight is quite boring. Any more questions feel free to ask!

This will not work.
You will spawn and get killed by a Ka-50 or equivalent vehicle every single time. Heli EC is a deathtrap for anyone without long-range missiles. The only option you really have unless you want to die over and over and over again and maybe get 1 tank kill is to try the tank assault gamemode (or keep trying tank RB). In tank assault, you can spawn in a heli, but even there its not really worthwhile.
Low RP gains, SPAA that can shoot through terrain on the maps, and just how lackluster that heli is is quite bad. Sure, it gets better when you get the ATGM which things like the AH-1G doesn't have, but even then you will still be swatted out of the sky with ease by either AI SPAA in tank assault or player SPAA/Planes in tank RB. The ~4km range on the ATGMs is good, but its no 10km like the Ka-50.
I've spent hours grinding the US and USSR helis and they are literal suffering and is not worth it. If you don't have the top of the line shiniest and newest heli, you are basically irrelevant (especially in Heli EC). Until they drastically reduce the RP costs for helis or restructure the whole system, its really not worth it and I advise against even trying to grind it out. And since Gaijin doesn't seem to want to do that, I don't think they deserve a full $60 for a heli that will likely be made redundant in an update or two by another one.

[SUN]

We all agree the mi4av is a piece of ♥♥♥♥ that needs to be fixed or replaced

[Pumba70]

Originally posted by =KGrWF=Radio_Demon:

Originally posted by Pumba70:

This will not work.
You will spawn and get killed by a Ka-50 or equivalent vehicle every single time. Heli EC is a deathtrap for anyone without long-range missiles. The only option you really have unless you want to die over and over and over again and maybe get 1 tank kill is to try the tank assault gamemode (or keep trying tank RB). In tank assault, you can spawn in a heli, but even there its not really worthwhile.
Low RP gains, SPAA that can shoot through terrain on the maps, and just how lackluster that heli is is quite bad. Sure, it gets better when you get the ATGM which things like the AH-1G doesn't have, but even then you will still be swatted out of the sky with ease by either AI SPAA in tank assault or player SPAA/Planes in tank RB. The ~4km range on the ATGMs is good, but its no 10km like the Ka-50.
I've spent hours grinding the US and USSR helis and they are literal suffering and is not worth it. If you don't have the top of the line shiniest and newest heli, you are basically irrelevant (especially in Heli EC). Until they drastically reduce the RP costs for helis or restructure the whole system, its really not worth it and I advise against even trying to grind it out. And since Gaijin doesn't seem to want to do that, I don't think they deserve a full $60 for a heli that will likely be made redundant in an update or two by another one.

Not exactly correct. You'll be killed by top of the line helis if you go for the objective which the Mi-4 can't do. If you rather flank to the back of them map while the objective is on the other side of the map you won't have any problems getting to the ground units. If you know where to go you can easily get 23+ ground kills, honestly only on rare occasions an enemy went to the back of the map and killed me.
Tank assault is utter trash, for 30min of work I barely got ~6k RP with a win, if you don't win it's just a waste of SL and you get next to nothing in RP.
I spent hours in heli EC, grinded out every heli for the US and i'm 1/3 done on the Mi-24V so far I haven't sufferd that hard at all. Honestly it's really relaxing once you get used to it. I will however agree with you on something. Heli EC really needs a reworks and the RP cost should be lowered.

Fair enough, but the US heli grind is much easier compared to the Mi though. The AH-1G at least has enough guns and speed to get into a fight with other helis before it gets shot down, while the Mi-4 has neither of those. So if you are stuck flanking the entire map, it will take you ages. The Mi-4 is already slow, but even slower when loaded down with rockets to a snails pace, not to mention the super annoying slight pull to one side that limits your speed even more. With the radar the new helis have now, I imagine its even worse.