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chicks99 Apr 13, 2020 @ 10:12pm
P38 J15 is Trash
Ok probably from all the complaints I've made by now you probably know I hate every nation except germany. But U.S tech tree just makes me mad enough to make what this is the 3rd discussion complaining about the US Planes. So anyhow I'm trying to get U.S jets cause german jets don't know what "Air to Air Missles" are until 10.3, meanwhile the US gets em at 8.3. Well anyways first off if you plan on blaming me, ♥♥♥♥ off, it's never my fault. It is always the plane at fault and it will stay that way, if I can fly a bf109 or p51 fine then what gives exception to any other plane?

The P38 J15 is a 4.3 plane that looks like 2 p40s glued together that ate 10 big macs and got a 20mm cannon. Well anyways its pretty bad here are the reasons why:

1 - Engines overheat on 100% radiator, Seriously? I can do WEP for the entire match (if i bring enough fuel) in a Bf109. and this P38 cant handle that?

2 - 50 cals are useless. I literally shot a zero and I saw sparks and all my 50 cals ricocheted off its tail. How?! Imagine having a MG so useless at 4.3 that it bounces off a JAPANESE plane, keep in mind Japanese planes are made out of toilet paper thin aluminum.

3 - Gets uptiered to 5.3 way to often. I went 3 matches in a row getting uptiered whether its against A7ms or Do335s or Fw190 A8s. Like damn, Gaijin did I ask to be uptiered?

4 - 21.5 Sec turn is pretty bad. Bf109s pull 20 secs or 19 when spaded and 21.5 spaded is still horrible. And for all the idiots who say you dont need turn in a BNZ, YOU DO. Its called turning to get your guns on target smh. People who fly against japanese planes know they can easily dodge so you need more turn to easily get the guns on them.

5 - Its 1 stage supercharger easily gets beaten by the bf109s 2 stage. High altitude performance kinda bad, even a Me264 sniped my wing off from 2km away and my 50 cals barely scratch it from that distance.

6 - The most weakest point of this though is that it gets naval map. If I play on a bf109 I would NEVER get a naval map. However playing USA, I get maps where I need to land on carriers to either re arm or repair. I don't know if you know this but the P38 was NOT designed to land on a carrier. When I landed my wing came off from hitting the tower cause not enough space and I can't turn due to heavy tail damage sustained in battle. I needed a quick landing and If I can't do that on a carrier because the plane is bad, then why do I have to go on that map?!

7 - Why do I always get a team that doesn't know what the word "climb" means? Like seriously, I go against japan on naval maps and literally 80% of my team is at the bottom chasing 2 bombers. Meanwhile I have 4 Zeros hot on my tail after diving from 6 km to 4 km altitude (That'
s 18,000 ft to 12,00 ft for freedom users). Well anyways I get 6v3'd and Die because my team didn't climb and the zeroes started diving. I sometimes get a less brain dead team if I play against germany but regardless the chances for that is below 10%.

TL:DR
1 - Bad Armament
2 - Overheats more than the F8F
3 - Uptier = Death sentence
4 - Bad Turn
5 - Bad high altitude
6 - Army plane doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ belong in a naval map
7 - Team is brain dead 90% of the time

Feel free to respond, but never blame my skills. My skills are average and fine, if a plane takes more than average skill to fly then it is a failure of a plane. Why would someone give a plane hard to fly and that is bad? By the way, if you plan to tell me to quit the U.S tree it ain't happening. I'm grinding for U.S Jets as stated before knowing the props are absolute garbage, but I got so salty about how dumpster they are I did this. U.S planes are dirt cheap to repair compared to German ones and have more SL multiplier but that doesn't justify the unfairness.
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Blitzkrieg Wulf  [developer] Apr 13, 2020 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by chicks99:
... first off if you plan on blaming me, ♥♥♥♥ off, it's never my fault. It is always the plane at fault and it will stay that way, if I can fly a bf109 or p51 fine then what gives exception to any other plane? ...

Because 'any other plane', by default, is different. Just because you may be proficient with one make of airplane does not automatically make you proficient with everything... Especially if said airplane is different, and isn't related at all.

Originally posted by chicks99:
TL:DR
1 - Bad Armament
2 - Overheats more than the F8F
3 - Uptier = Death sentence
4 - Bad Turn
5 - Bad high altitude
6 - Army plane doesn't ♥♥♥♥ing belong in a naval map
7 - Team is brain dead 90% of the time

(1) "Bad armament".... More like bad ISP. The P-38's have a great armament, and quite a bit of ammo to boot. Don't have to worry about convergence, head ons are easy mode etc.
(2, 4, 5) Is the plane stock? Or did you actually play 30-50 games with it and genuinely try to understand the plane and do well with it, AFTER spading it?
(3) ... If this P-38 was supposed to be objectively 'better' than the planes it fights when it is uptiered, guess what BR it would have? That of the planes it was fighting. But it doesn't. One can conclude that in an uptier, yes, it will be at a disadvantage. Is it necessarily a guaranteed death sentence? No.
(6) That's been an issue since the beginning of time. Next.
(7) See immediately above. Play with squadrons.
BlastXng Apr 14, 2020 @ 8:36pm 
Because Gajiin nerf'd the P38 since it was more powerful than it's Russian counterpart and lord knows, VP will tell Gajiin that's not allowed so you have a P38 that I used to be able to shoot down all sorts of ♥♥♥♥, weaken by the hateful bias at Gajiin.
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Date Posted: Apr 13, 2020 @ 10:12pm
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