Object 279 is massively detrimental to the 7.3-8.3 bracket.

[Reaper Jack]

I'm sorry, but this thing is utterly overpowered when top bracket or even mid bracket (and it seems to get top BR A LOT as there are very few 9.3 lineups for it to be bottom BR against, while there is plenty of 7.3, 7.7 and 8.0 lineups for it to just crush.

Super Russian APHE + Stabilizer + Better armor than a Maus + almost light tank levels of mobility is too much for one vehicle, I get it's a hard reward after a hard grind (or a hard wallet opening) but this is just Maus 2.0 and the problem will repeat itself. That said it's Russian so I doubt it'll ever get changed. Personally i think it should be at least an 8.7 if not a 9.0 instead (similar pen to L7 cannon APFSDS with better post pen damage, stabilizer and heavy armor to boot for very little mobility sacrifice makes it equal to Europanzer era MBT's imo.)

[Smeg]

Yesterday i actually saw a guy with an 1S-7 and a 279 in his lignup, and yes they won. Funny how all these event tanks are russian.

[Reaper Jack]

Originally posted by Smeg:

Yesterday i actually saw a guy with an 1S-7 and a 279 in his lignup, and yes they won. Funny how all these event tanks are russian.

I'm seeing tons of players with nothing but the 279 in their lineup, many more with it backed up by IS-7 and T10M.

I'd be fine with this if my tanks even stood a chance, but even if you catch one with it's pants down, you'll likely not kill it because of the magical armor and it'll swivel and one shot you back. Having to fight it in The Strv 101 (Cent. Mk 10) over and over again every game is so frustrating it's insane. 300mm of penetration on that APDS and I can only go through on a tiny weak spot on the turret that is literally a couple pixels in size.

[Kotory]

And everything you wrote is exactly how 279 gonna feel itself vs 9.3-9.0 tanks.
btw. Why the heck do u even try to shoot his turret? This thing has 400-500mm of frontal armour there. Shoot its hull, it has massive weakspot around driver view port

[Reaper Jack]

Originally posted by Kotory:

And everything you wrote is exactly how 279 gonna feel itself vs 9.3-9.0 tanks.
btw. Why the heck do u even try to shoot his turret? This thing has 400-500mm of frontal armour there. Shoot its hull, it has massive weakspot around driver view port

As it should. Right now the tanks it fights can't even scratch it. Every team I've lost to today has had 4-5 of these at the top of their scoreboard, guaranteed. It has equal capability to a Europanzer era MBT (8.7-9.0 MBT's) therefore it should play with them. As or that weakspot, that's news to me, as every time I go for a driver port shot I simply ricochet off.

[CH13F]

its not op. all british tanks and knock off versions underperforming. i know coz i use both ussr and uk mainly. and i played with apds ammo a lot.

do you know what i do? i just dont engage. just like i know my is6 cant pen a maus even from behind. so i mark. call it out in chat and i let others deal with it. i mean i m not trying to disrespect here but you dont have to shoot everything you see just like in Call of duty multiplayer.

also i seen obj279 1 shotted frontally a lot. this week i mostly played USSR so i havent got any chance to engage this tank. but if people one shooting it frontally then i agree with above statements that it must have some weak spots.

also british Milan atgms should easily pen it with 700mm penetration and cripple it.

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Reaper Jack:

Originally posted by Kotory:

And everything you wrote is exactly how 279 gonna feel itself vs 9.3-9.0 tanks.
btw. Why the heck do u even try to shoot his turret? This thing has 400-500mm of frontal armour there. Shoot its hull, it has massive weakspot around driver view port

As it should. Right now the tanks it fights can't even scratch it. Every team I've lost to today has had 4-5 of these at the top of their scoreboard, guaranteed. It has equal capability to a Europanzer era MBT (8.7-9.0 MBT's) therefore it should play with them. As or that weakspot, that's news to me, as every time I go for a driver port shot I simply ricochet off.

it doesn't have MBT armour. lol. Its turret is tough for sure - 400 to 500 mm.
But the hull is like cardboard against anything like APFSDS or Heat.

[Reaper Jack]

Originally posted by Kotory:

Originally posted by Reaper Jack:

As it should. Right now the tanks it fights can't even scratch it. Every team I've lost to today has had 4-5 of these at the top of their scoreboard, guaranteed. It has equal capability to a Europanzer era MBT (8.7-9.0 MBT's) therefore it should play with them. As or that weakspot, that's news to me, as every time I go for a driver port shot I simply ricochet off.

it doesn't have MBT armour. lol. Its turret is tough for sure - 400 to 500 mm.
But the hull is like cardboard against anything like APFSDS or Heat.

Anything's hull is cardboard to Darts and HEAT. That's not a unique trait. As I said, consistently seeing these topping scoreboards (when not played by an incompetent) and I would like to be wrong about it being Maus 2.0 but my experience is pointing to the contrary right now.

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Reaper Jack:

Originally posted by Kotory:

it doesn't have MBT armour. lol. Its turret is tough for sure - 400 to 500 mm.
But the hull is like cardboard against anything like APFSDS or Heat.

Anything's hull is cardboard to Darts and HEAT. That's not a unique trait. As I said, consistently seeing these topping scoreboards (when not played by an incompetent) and I would like to be wrong about it being Maus 2.0 but my experience is pointing to the contrary right now.

not anything. At least not against its own br and below, while 279 hull can be penned by pretty much anything at its own br and below.
Also armour is not everything that matters, you know.
Of course they will top the scoreboards, cuz its new and barely anyone knows where to shoot it.
Most of the unexperienced players are trying to shoot his turret cheek for sure, where this thing is the strongest. Same story was with is7 and where is it now? Barely anyone plays it.
While this thing is fairly good at its own br, it suffers in uptier just like any other heavy in the game.

[MDCCC]

My teams still stomp even if there are IS-7's and Obj-279's. Probably just the players and tanks you use against them. Chemical based shells and darts work fine.

[burg4401]

first thing I did was play with the armour pen analysis vs brit cheiftans, mk3/5.

After less than a min I didn't give it a second thought, same with the is7.

Played a game yesterday just to see how the mk5 would do, biggest pain is still the bmp.
Within the first 2 mins the italian go carts had popped 5 of these OP Tanks and anything else that they decided needed to die.
My job just seemed to be to keep the bmps at a distance......

What I should have done was NOT look at armour pen analysis and come straight on the forums complaining how OP it is.

It will only be a mater of time before we see I paid money Object 279 needs a buff on the forums.

[NapoleonBornToParty]

welcome to war thunder

[Strange Bread]

Lol, both 279 and IS-7 can't have BR higher than 8.3 because any HEAT one-shots them. But there are a lot of HEATs since 7.7. Also any APFSDS one-shots them. If you will put them to 8.7 these tanks will suffer every match.

[Kiwoeoe]

"overpowered " can be pened by everything but hey

[Kay]

Originally posted by Kiwoeoe:

"overpowered " can be pened by everything but hey

*any chemical or APFSDS round, or 120mm APDS, any smaller guns firing APDS (the L7 being common around that BR, with more than one nation not having HEAT) will ping off it.

Compared to the T-64A, it's hull is a bit weaker and turret front is about as strong against HEAT, the turret is stronger against APFSDS while the hull is about as strong (stronger at strongest and weakest, with larger "weak" area) it has less pen and a slower reload and it has similar mobility. It should be 8.7 with the T-64A being 9.0 IMO.

[Cat]

dude stop posting this stuff
the Br so good 8.3 a lot if apfsds and to easy to kill if you know were to shot the is7 have better armor and its not overpowered
8.3 so great
8.7 will be a cancer BR
first time Warthunder put a good br for a tank !