Whats better MIG 21 OR PHANTOM F-4E

[MakeTheGod]

Top tier question

[ricefield_man]

he 51

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F100D

[biomike]

Po-2

[Doctor Eggman]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von biomike:

Po-2

This. Fly low and slow, let the jets dive into the ground trying to hit you. Mmmmmmm.

[Sil.^Fisk]

None. Play Tanks instead like everyone else

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sil.^:

None. Play Tanks instead like everyone else

not everyone play tanks, there is still poeple of quality

[MJ-Nether]

MiG 21 and F4-E does have comparable missiles, so they are about even

don't forget this is missile thunder now

[piddlefoot]

Before jets I just look at kg burst of ammo, top speed and turn rates, gives you the best fighters.

In Vietnam, the F4 won more engagements but thats most likely due to the awesome US pilot training and longer range missiles, the Mig 21 in real life, was faster, alot faster, could out turn the F4 very easily at lower speeds, the flight envelope for the F4 was higher altitude, and the migs used to shoot up from the cloud below and strafe the F4s on hit and run assaults.

If the Mig pilots had the training of the US pilots, its very likely the US would not have been able to gain air superiority in Vietnam, and in the north they never really did, did they.
Rolling thunder was a mess of an operation and really exposed the weakness of the F4 in real life.

Its the reason the F16 and F18 even exist.

The history of US fighter planes is fascinating is it not.!

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von piddlefoot:

Before jets I just look at kg burst of ammo, top speed and turn rates, gives you the best fighters.

In Vietnam, the F4 won more engagements but thats most likely due to the awesome US pilot training and longer range missiles, the Mig 21 in real life, was faster, alot faster, could out turn the F4 very easily at lower speeds, the flight envelope for the F4 was higher altitude, and the migs used to shoot up from the cloud below and strafe the F4s on hit and run assaults.

If the Mig pilots had the training of the US pilots, its very likely the US would not have been able to gain air superiority in Vietnam, and in the north they never really did, did they.
Rolling thunder was a mess of an operation and really exposed the weakness of the F4 in real life.

Its the reason the F16 and F18 even exist.

The history of US fighter planes is fascinating is it not.!

Indeed my friend, indeed
intersted to form a Phantom squad ?

[piddlefoot]

Im in Australia, so my ping is not great to alot of the servers, so factions I try to avoid because I tend to bring lag to the game if the server is more than 300 ping, it effects everyone.
Australia has terrible internet, Libs replaced an optical cable with wireless crap and now the system is slower than a wet week.

So I have to respectfully decline sorry.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von piddlefoot:

Im in Australia, so my ping is not great to alot of the servers, so factions I try to avoid because I tend to bring lag to the game if the server is more than 300 ping, it effects everyone.
Australia has terrible internet, Libs replaced an optical cable with wireless crap and now the system is slower than a wet week.

So I have to respectfully decline sorry.

no problem bro i hope Australia will fix this soon

[piddlefoot]

Well we tried and the Lib ruined it so its probably going to be 30 years before its fixed now.
But Corona virus has at least exposed how bad the system is, and hopefully all them Lib voters can now see, the other 40 billion dollar system was better than the 90 billion dollar system we got......Thats crap lol.........
Labour basically built the NBN , with optical cable to ever home was the plan, but Libs got in and chopped it up for there forign mates to invest in and now its cost us 90 billion and is literally 1/150th the speed.

Before NBN, I got 800kb, thats right, not even 1meg on copper cables.

Labour NBN we were guaranteed 1000 megs at the house node, every house was the same, but in Australia only 10% of homes ended up with a cable now, contacts already done they were, so the rest of us are now struggling to get a solid 20 to 30 megs, this is a 90 billion system vs a 40 billion made in Australia system with 1000 megs speed.

These guys cant manage a brothel in the middle of Kings Cross Sydney....I hope our country see that.....
At the time the Libs blamed gamers, every day for weeks ads about how its a waste to put in a 1000 meg system for gamers, running into the election that was, now during Corona, the largest callings from education and the medical sector, lacking the speed to do things like perform real time surgery and educate people or real time Corona data, this has really exposed how truy weak our internet system is in Australia, hope other ozzies that might read this think about it, it was never the gamers fault........

Anyway enough ranting lol....