The worst tanks in the game.

[Strange Bread]

Which ones do you think? My own are russian MBTs. Everybody who say they are good or even OP - just didn't play those trash cans. They have so much disadvantages and so small advantages.
Advantages:
+small size
+80 mm side armor (allows to survive some AAs)
+reloading doesn't depend on crew's health
+APSFDS in stock condition
+ATGMs on some of them
Disadvantages:
-Armor has a lot of huge weakspots, if you have at least some of skill - it's not problem to hit them. But the best top shells pen them anywhere. For example my T-80B is always one-shot target for any other tanks. If it's difficult to hit russian MBT's weakspots for you-sorry, you are noob.
-no surviveability (any penetration is deadly)
-long reloading, which you can't make faster in any way
-slow turret rotation (2-3 times slower than other tanks')
-veery slow gun elevation (it takes 6 seconds in best to move gun from -6 to 13, while, for example, M1A2 elevates his gun from -10 to 20 for just 2.5 seconds or even faster)
-bad gun depression in both up and down
-slow hull rotation
-can't turn hull without moving
-no thermals (Only T-80 have them but only as special modification, + they are 1st gen and only for gunner)
-bad nightvision with low resolution
-stock shells have low penetration and damage
-gun breach made of glass
-single-use armor (T-80U)
-veery bad mobility (except T-80s)
- no reverse (except T-80s)
-bad reverse (T-80s)

P.S. Every nation has it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tanks, but usually there are no so much of them and you can skip them. But those cannot be skipped - they take actually the whole tech tree. Every time I play my russian MBTs, I don't play, but suffer.

[Strange Bread]

I mean those tanks: T-62M-1, T-64A, T-72A, T-64B, T-72B, T-80B and T-80U. I have them all, except T-80U.

[PenguinFlover]

the old french reserve/1.0 tanks were horrible, even before the armor penetration update.
H.35, AMC.34, FCM.36... imagine starting the game with these... or switching from an "easy" nation to play to France...

[Strange Bread]

I played them. Yes, they are horrible. Fortunately Gaijin have added AMD 35 wheeled armored car. It's cool actually - so you can skip french 1.0 tanks on it, becouse there is needed really small of RP. But russian MBTs you can't skip similarly(

[Shard]

Swingfire:
+You can shoot over stuff

-bad reverse
-terrible survivability
-unresponsive ATGM's
-can't shoot targets close to you at all
-ATGM's often smash into the ground because they overcompensate for the upwards shooting arc
-you absolutely cannot peek over hills, because you can't aim the missiles downwards at all
-long reload

I like spading everything, but I absolutely don't have the patience for that garbage can. It got downtiered a lot, but it will still suck for all eternity.

Stormer HVM:
-pfff

SU-57B:
+good gun
+good reload

-slow
-huge silhouette
-no reverse
-no gun depression
-no survivability, even bi-planes can kill you with 7mm machine guns
-the entire set-up. It's so bad, I could write a whole paragraph about it.
Unlike on most other TD's the gun is located excatly in the middle. This means that you can't even hide one side of your hull properly. It's also pretty low relative to your height, so you can get killed when you can't even aim at the enemy. You can't go hull down. If you find something to peak over it isn't even helpful.

The way your crew is located, any shot to any side will cripple you and leave you unable to return fire. Unlike on a StuG, one side contains the driver, the other contains the gunner. If one gets knocked out you're pretty much dead. If you wish to hide one side behind a rock, due to crew replacement you'll still lose your driver, making you unable to escape, then he'll get replaced and on the next shot you're dead.

Nothing redeems this thing. Possibly the most miserable vehicle I have ever played.

[TalkinTurtle]

every tank since we dont have the bob semple

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

m901.

-Doesnt have battle gear so its useless in every single engagement and CQB
-turret used to try turn and reload after every shot, EVERY SHOT, so you literally couldnt kill anything under 1km out because of that
-can be hull broken by shooting the atgm launcher making it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ redundant
-only 12 shots and takes forever to reload them

[Strange Bread]

引用自 TalkinTurtle：

every tank since we dont have the bob semple

Yeah, Bob Semple can destroy the whole universe. What to say about BIG BOB super heavy tank...

[TalkinTurtle]

thats just its evolution in higher tier

[EpicFrostchaserSWF]

引用自 PenguinFlover：

the old french reserve/1.0 tanks were horrible, even before the armor penetration update.
H.35, AMC.34, FCM.36... imagine starting the game with these... or switching from an "easy" nation to play to France...

Dont Forget they removed the Ha Go as it was garbage as well.

[flyboymb]

M2A2

Cons

.30 cal primary gun with .50 cal secondary meaning that if the .30 cal gunner is killed, the user of the larger gun jumps over to the one that would have trouble penetrating stale bread.

Turret design means you're limited to 90 degree arc of effective fire. Turret speed and poor elevation makes it poor AA platform.

All 4 crew are clustered around the dead center of the front meaning that if you tape a firecracker to the nose of AP you'll be able to OHKO the tank with a bullseye. Armor on front is laughable.

Pros

Meme tank?

[okocha55]

Archer is at top of this list. 🤣

[Bison]

M11/39 im not exactly sure if its really that bad but it seems nobody plays it.

[CSKA'Николаи]

Definitely AMC 34 YR, nothing can be worse than that. Well that I know of.

[InfiniteSpin]

Huh? The Russian top tier tanks have the trolliest if not the BEST armor. The fact they can bounce high pen rounds should be enough..

[Strange Bread]

引用自 ProfessionalGoyim：

Huh? The Russian top tier tanks have the trolliest if not the BEST armor. The fact they can bounce high pen rounds should be enough..

Is it joke or what? I've played them a lot and this armor doesn't work. Just doesn't. Even M1 Abrams with 105mm gun easilly pens my T-80B, becouse there are a lot of weakspots which are easy to hit. And any penetration blows up ammo or knocks 2 of 3 tankmans. If we talk about not-weakspot places, the hull is protected from only 105mm shells, any 120mm APSFDS pen anything except T-80U from any distance. But T-80U has single-use ERA. Yes, turret has good armor actually but with big weakspot around the gun. In my experience, it's simple to hit for my enemies.
Verdict; Russian tops have some good armor, but it woks only against absolutely unskilled dummy noobs, who play top tier first time. For normal players it's not problem to pen any russian MBT. And after penetration it dies, becouse has no surviveability. This crap can bounce som serious shell only by the most protected turret's parts, where nobody shoots.
P.S. At the top tiers Strv 122 and Leopard 2A5 have the best armor btw.