Kv 1 C needs to be nerfed

[Skibidi Rizzler]

this thing is borderline OP at its br, out performs anything in its tier

[Skibidi Rizzler]

Originally posted by dresden:

It's a 3.3 gun on a 4.3 chassis with a 50 mm mantlet armor. If he angles the hull just shoot the mantlet, if he doesn't just shoot the lower front plate. Both of those will one shot the tank most of the time.

Except the mantlet has the most troll armor in the entire game, cant even pen the tank reliably with my M4a4 sa 50

[kingjames488]

if you ask me it's boring AF having everything able to be 1hit by anything...

maybe tell someone with a tank destroyer to get over there.

[halolo39]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

if you ask me it's boring AF having everything able to be 1hit by anything...

maybe tell someone with a tank destroyer to get over there.

OP already said he used a SA50 sherman against it, that tank is the highest penning sherman there is.

[Skibidi Rizzler]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

if you ask me it's boring AF having everything able to be 1hit by anything...

maybe tell someone with a tank destroyer to get over there.

except it bounces or rng deflects, there is no consistant way to pen it

[Dane]

Shoot everywhere but the mantlet then?.

Also, outperforms anything in its tier?, plenty of vehicles at tier III that would wipe the floor with it. Say br range next time.

[gaming]

KV-1 C overperforming at its tier?

Oh boy, you should see high tier! The Object-279 can not be penetrated by anything other than extremely high penetrating tanks, and even those have to go for weakspots! It destroys anything in one shot and the speed is comparable to a BT-5.

The KV-1 C is balanced when you compare it to the 279.

[AttackerCat]

Go for the mantlet. I’ve hardly ever personally had a wild bounce on it but the cast majority of the time I’ll knock the cannon breech out and a few crew in the turret.

Even if you just hit the gun barrel and damage it you can buy enough time for a turret ring or diver port followup shot.

[CMDR Emotions]

I have it and love it, but it's easy to kill. Hell I just got killed by a t-34-57. The SA50 is a great, if you're not using PCOT-51 shot yet, get it, it's the best 75mm AP shell in the game. It can easily kill the KV-1 C 756 if they don't angle under 500m.

If they're angled, aim for the weld on the side of the turret, it will go right through and kill the turret crew and breach. Aim low around the turret ring for the larger area that you can pen.

It isn't OP when it regularly gets uptierd to 5.7.

At 1km they're probably not angeld and you can easily pen their hull with the PCOT 51 shot.

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by halolo39:

Originally posted by kingjames488:

if you ask me it's boring AF having everything able to be 1hit by anything...

maybe tell someone with a tank destroyer to get over there.

OP already said he used a SA50 sherman against it, that tank is the highest penning sherman there is.

except sherman isn't a tank destroyer... sherman already 1-hits everything else lol.

[Darp]

have you not fought it as a american tank? because american tanks are op in my opinion.

[Stridswombat]

If you look at the Churchills, all of the KV's massively overperform in their armour for the BR. The 3.7 KV literally has more armour and is faster than the 4.0 Church with a better gun. The KV IC is not an exception. The firepower is far from bad too. The slope modifier and post-pen makes sure of that.

[SwooshBear]

As a German player that plays 4.3 all the time. I do agree with that the turrets are bouncy as hell. Yes. The armor penetration analysis says German 75's can easily go through the turret. I know, I check it all the time after getting sent back to hanger after dying to a KV1 whose turret just cant be penned. No, I'm not bad at aiming. The turret is just really really bouncy if you dont hit the small flat sections around the rounded part of the turret.

I also play KV1s and have the German captured KV1. No. My turret is not penned THAT easily. Lots of things that should lol pen the turret just dont a lot of the time. Its a very inconsistent weak spot.

[Greco-Supremo]

''oh nooooo heavy tank that actually acts like a heavy tank and can block my shots from fornt...nerf it!!!!''

and here is why almost all heavy tanks in game are useless :)

[Stridswombat]

Originally posted by Wang:

''oh nooooo heavy tank that actually acts like a heavy tank and can block my shots from fornt...nerf it!!!!''

and here is why almost all heavy tanks in game are useless :)

Heavy tanks are supposed to be well protected from the front, not near impenetrable without weakspots. It should force more aiming but be very possible to pen with it. Most heavy tanks follow this rule, including the Churchills. Yet there's 3.7 KV's with more armour than the 4.0 Churchill and unlike the Churchill which has frontal weakspots that can be penned by guns with 50mm or more pen, the KV has none.

That's why it is severely undertiered. Functional armour does not equal not having any weakspots.

[Ddinosaur]

Originally posted by Stridswombat:

Originally posted by Wang:

''oh nooooo heavy tank that actually acts like a heavy tank and can block my shots from fornt...nerf it!!!!''

and here is why almost all heavy tanks in game are useless :)

Heavy tanks are supposed to be well protected from the front, not near impenetrable without weakspots. It should force more aiming but be very possible to pen with it. Most heavy tanks follow this rule, including the Churchills. Yet there's 3.7 KV's with more armour than the 4.0 Churchill and unlike the Churchill which has frontal weakspots that can be penned by guns with 50mm or more pen, the KV has none.

That's why it is severely undertiered. Functional armour does not equal not having any weakspots.

Churchills have armour thicker almost by 20-50 mm, depending on what you KV you are comparing it to.

Same with the gun, all 3 KVs mirror around just under 90mm with the best shell.

The Churchill Mark 1 just about the same pen as all KVs with their best shell
Mark 3 goes over 100mm
Mark 7 also goes over 100m