"Armor" META

[InfiniteSpin]

Where is it? When will Gajin stop adding streetcar tanks with 6 gorillion milimeters of pen? This game has literally devolved into a point and click shooter, paper vs paper tanks.

[burg4401]

heat fs got rid of armour along time before the go karts.

and what tanks are you thinking are paper?

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by burg4401:

heat fs got rid of armour along time before the go karts.

and what tanks are you thinking are paper?

IS3 for example. On paper a super heavy, in matchups most tanks can pen it frontally. This is just a small example. Also ATGM's sure arent helping these early war tanks.

[burg4401]

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoyim:

Originally posted by burg4401:

heat fs got rid of armour along time before the go karts.

and what tanks are you thinking are paper?

IS3 for example. On paper a super heavy, in matchups most tanks can pen it frontally. This is just a small example. Also ATGM's sure arent helping these early war tanks.

i asked what paper tanks, you come back with is3.....it was built so not really paper.

armour is meaningless, you replay with atgms.....yes, well done, you agree with me, armour is meaningless.

I said heat fs because it came out before atgm.....so you reply with atgm, something that came out in the game after heat fs.

not sure what you are trying to say other than noise.

[Lukkyb]

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoyim:

Originally posted by burg4401:

paper in this game means not real.
Is it our fault you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to this game?.

You can swear and be abusive all you want, is it a wonder you hate the community when you are so toxic, I guess most just don't put up with you.

Oh please shut the ♥♥♥♥ up. You're the one who was call me names, don't act like the victim. And its paper armor, as in paper thin. Can't believe you call me out and call me names and act like a victim. Total trash.

have you tried messing around with the amour protection anlayis in the amour tab in your hanger where you can see what will and wont pen you at what angle.

another thing treat every shot as if it will pen/kill you as said above amour is meaningless in this game at higher teirs

[Lukkyb]

You do know i actually gave advice but if you want to turn this thread into a place to anger everyone be my guest. i tried to help but it has been ignored.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Armour gets more useless as you climb tiers/brs etc... The only situations armour works are when agasint bad players who have poor aim, or when someone is driving without stop at certain angles making hard to hit kill shots, or some tanks can use it with hulldown tactics, thats why to use armour in a more succefull way, other than that its useless...
The meta is high mobility along with firepower with very fast reload times, players should never trust armour, armour its our last line of defence:)

[torindechoza]

is3 is a decent tank. But... not immortal, so dont expect to take hits and survive. Friendly advice, dont play to get hit with enemy weapons, maybe a bad idea.
But... you do you.

[Dakota]

The point of armor is to reduce your chances of dying on a hit, not to make you immune to everything. There's always weakspots in armor where things can disable you and you can always be flanked, but it sure gives the enemy a harder time killing you whether by limiting the amount of enemies in the match with a weapon capable of killing you frontally or by forcing them to flank you.

[kiro the avenger!]

Vehicles in Warthunder are always put at a tier where, even at a downtier, they are killable frontally by any other tank at that tier.
A few tanks manage to slip into a BR where a full downtier makes them very awkward to kill, such as the Jumbo or Churchill VII, but they're really the exception rather than the norm.

You're right though that the meta in Warthunder very much favours lighter, faster, vehicles with powerful guns. If you're going to be put at a BR where most guns will penetrate you anyway, why slow yourself down with armour?

[Dawson]

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoyim:

Where is it? When will Gajin stop adding streetcar tanks with 6 gorillion milimeters of pen? This game has literally devolved into a point and click shooter, paper vs paper tanks.

Yeah that's what made me bored and stop playing. Every vehicle feels the same, you don't need to know anything about armour pen or the different shells fired. The game pretends it has all this depth but it doesn't. I could get a complete noob to play top tier vehicles and he would be no 'worse' than a 'pro' player. Just point and shoot. Real life tank crews would be disappointed.

[Ifrit's ShadowA41™]

Originally posted by kiro the avenger!:

Vehicles in Warthunder are always put at a tier where, even at a downtier, they are killable frontally by any other tank at that tier.
A few tanks manage to slip into a BR where a full downtier makes them very awkward to kill, such as the Jumbo or Churchill VII, but they're really the exception rather than the norm.

You're right though that the meta in Warthunder very much favours lighter, faster, vehicles with powerful guns. If you're going to be put at a BR where most guns will penetrate you anyway, why slow yourself down with armour?

You forgot Tiger IIs, mate.

[kiro the avenger!]

Originally posted by Property of Itsuka Kotori™:

Originally posted by kiro the avenger!:

Vehicles in Warthunder are always put at a tier where, even at a downtier, they are killable frontally by any other tank at that tier.
A few tanks manage to slip into a BR where a full downtier makes them very awkward to kill, such as the Jumbo or Churchill VII, but they're really the exception rather than the norm.

You're right though that the meta in Warthunder very much favours lighter, faster, vehicles with powerful guns. If you're going to be put at a BR where most guns will penetrate you anyway, why slow yourself down with armour?

You forgot Tiger IIs, mate.

From having played with and (to a lesser extent) against them, they were definitely not as difficult to penetrate as Jumbos or Churchill VIIs but any margin. The vulnerable areas just aren't as small at all.
There is of course a sliding scale. JdPz.IVs can be awkward at times, as can the M5-105, or KV-1s or many others.

[Ifrit's ShadowA41™]

Originally posted by kiro the avenger!:

Originally posted by Property of Itsuka Kotori™:

You forgot Tiger IIs, mate.

From having played with and (to a lesser extent) against them, they were definitely not as difficult to penetrate as Jumbos or Churchill VIIs but any margin. The vulnerable areas just aren't as small at all.
There is of course a sliding scale. JdPz.IVs can be awkward at times, as can the M5-105, or KV-1s or many others.

In down tiers, the Tiger II is definitely on par with them in terms of being frontally killed. I fight them almost all the time and play them occasionally, they tend to be my easiest matches even when taken up.

Also, do you use the actual gunner sights or leave it off? I have it on and Tiger IIs are a pain to fight.

[11hunter22]

Well to be fair armor IS meta in AB, and that's where Russia hightier shines.
M18/leo/ R3 etc are utter sh+t in that mode

[highfivingbears]

Learn how and when to angle. If you're in an uptier, chances are angling isn't gonna do you anything. If you're facing tanks equal to your BR or lower, then angling can do you really really well.

When you first get to the T-34's in the Soviet lineup, the angling potential is utterly massive. Very few tanks can pen a properly angled T-34, even at 4.0, I've found. Once you move past 4.0 with the T-34 lineup, don't try to angle and simply rely on your mobility.

Armor is not useless. You just need to learn when you can rely on it, against which enemies you can rely on it against, and at what BR's you can rely on your armor.