Active players decreasing

[Dipperly]

http://steamcharts.com/app/236390

Not everyone uses Steam to play WarThunder but I am sure most of the new players come from steam. Having that said, WarThunder has been loosing players for some months now and at a steady rate. Of course people come and go on this games, and some updates bring back people, etc...

But I feel that with the last changes to the game they have not been making a good job retaining people, more costs to repairs, war mode which we all have been waiting for years, seems it will be a glorified mode for clans...

Thoughts?

[Slyke]

380 000 unique players have played WT in last 2 weeks. That "average players" number in Steamcharts is meaningless. https://steamdb.info/app/236390/graphs/ The number of unique players went up by 200 000 during the last 2 weeks. The number of active players did go down by 50 000, but it's been fluctiating like that all the time.

[Squirtbottle]

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Messaggio originale di Curst:

Steamcharts is not an objective tool. They don't measure the number of unique active players, only the peak online. That number can mean anything and doesn't allow precise analysis of game's health. In reality WT has gained some 200 000 players in last two weeks. Don't know how many of them will stay, but the number of active players isn't exactly dropping.

True, the are not accurate but still show a player loss. Don´t you agree with me also, that most new players come from steam?

What source you got to show me war thunder has gained 200 000 players. I don`t even think WarThunder has that much active players.

How would we know that it's mostly from Steam

[Dipperly]

Messaggio originale di JumboShrimpTaco:

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Sure kid, if it makes you feel better go with it.

Hopefully this will make it more obvious:

"900 quadrillion active accounts lolol"

lol, yeah sure...

[Dipperly]

Messaggio originale di Curst:

380 000 unique players have played WT in last 2 weeks. That "average players" number is meaningless. https://steamdb.info/app/236390/graphs/

This number increases with the same players, is not the same thing as active players.

The same exact link shows what I say.

Players online
7,084 right now
13,641 24 hour peak - tweet this
35,313 all-time peak 2 years ago

The numbers you are putting here is the sum of all that in 2 weeks. That is no gain.

Besides you can even check it when you are playing WarThunder, it will tell you how many people is only, which last time I was playing was never higher than 25k. So that average is a sum, 380,000./14 (2 weeks) = 27,000 arpox. (daily), same as you can see once logged into the game.

[Dipperly]

Messaggio originale di Jonclee:

Messaggio originale di Elche:

True, the are not accurate but still show a player loss. Don´t you agree with me also, that most new players come from steam?

What source you got to show me war thunder has gained 200 000 players. I don`t even think WarThunder has that much active players.

How would we know that it's mostly from Steam

I know but at least I have something to show.

[Squirtbottle]

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Messaggio originale di Jonclee:

How would we know that it's mostly from Steam

I know but at least I have something to show.

It wouldn't be accurate tho so

[Dipperly]

Messaggio originale di Jonclee:

Messaggio originale di Elche:

I know but at least I have something to show.

It wouldn't be accurate tho so

It still shows a loss accurate or not and is more than nothing. You can discuss how many players may be "gone" but not that steam numbers are inaccurate themselves, and like I say I am sure most of the new players come from steam, and that is obvious to anyone.

[Squirtbottle]

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Messaggio originale di Jonclee:

It wouldn't be accurate tho so

It still shows a loss accurate or not and is more than nothing.

Also quite misleading

[BeansAndRice]

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Messaggio originale di JumboShrimpTaco:

Hopefully this will make it more obvious:

"900 quadrillion active accounts lolol"

lol, yeah sure...

"sarcasm lolol"

[Chaotic Harmony]

Messaggio originale di Curst:

Steamcharts is not an objective tool. They don't measure the number of unique active players, only the peak online. That number can mean anything and doesn't allow precise analysis of game's health. In reality WT has gained some 200 000 players in last two weeks. Don't know how many of them will stay, but the number of active players isn't exactly dropping.

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Messaggio originale di Jonclee:

It wouldn't be accurate tho so

It still shows a loss accurate or not and is more than nothing. You can discuss how many players may be "gone" but not that steam numbers are inaccurate themselves, and like I say I am sure most of the new players come from steam, and that is obvious to anyone.

He's right; peak hours have 50000 and SC only has 31000 as a record peak. Plus a margin of error comes from IGN not being perfect themselves; basically WT is stagnant/stable.

And SC is just bad data; the shear amount of variables it leaves out makes it unreliable at best.

[Dipperly]

Messaggio originale di Chaotic Harmony:

Messaggio originale di Curst:

Steamcharts is not an objective tool. They don't measure the number of unique active players, only the peak online. That number can mean anything and doesn't allow precise analysis of game's health. In reality WT has gained some 200 000 players in last two weeks. Don't know how many of them will stay, but the number of active players isn't exactly dropping.

Messaggio originale di Elche:

It still shows a loss accurate or not and is more than nothing. You can discuss how many players may be "gone" but not that steam numbers are inaccurate themselves, and like I say I am sure most of the new players come from steam, and that is obvious to anyone.

He's right; peak hours have 50000 and SC only has 31000 as a record peak. Plus a margin of error comes from IGN not being perfect themselves; basically WT is stagnant/stable.

And SC is just bad data; the shear amount of variables it leaves out makes it unreliable at best.

I haven`t seen anything above 35,000 for more than an year maybe though, and you can see that inside WT. Like trully...

[Chaotic Harmony]

Messaggio originale di Elche:

Messaggio originale di Chaotic Harmony:

He's right; peak hours have 50000 and SC only has 31000 as a record peak. Plus a margin of error comes from IGN not being perfect themselves; basically WT is stagnant/stable.

And SC is just bad data; the shear amount of variables it leaves out makes it unreliable at best.

I haven`t seen anything above 35,000 for more than an year maybe though, and you can see that inside WT. Like trully...

I see 50K every day from 2PM CDT-5PM CDT

[Dipperly]

mhmm... guess you don`t have any reason to lie. Let`s say you are right. You still think that steam charts aren`t any kind of indicator? I do agree they may be inacuratte but I also think they show something. Not really big numbers for a game like WarThunder, and like I said before since people may get confused, I do think this game will still have a solid player base for years to come.

[Chaotic Harmony]

Messaggio originale di Elche:

mhmm... guess you don`t have any reason to lie. Let`s say you are right. You still think that steam charts are any kind of indicator? I do agree they may be inacuratte but I also think they show something. Not really big numbers for a game like WarThunder, and like I said before since people may get confused, I do think this game will still have a solid player base for years to come.

I don't think the data should be seen as factual at all; quite honestly from my experiences i just enjoy MMO's while they last. I don't have a crystal ball; WT could ramp up advertising and start truely competing with WOT. Or remain a fairly niche game and keep a steady but stagnant playerbase; or just fade slowly into obsurity.

I used to play on DN quite a bit; DN peaked at 8K players a day. Then there was a slow drop; the drop leveled off but did not recover. WT has drops but recovery at the moment; leaving a "Sawtooth" pattern. Overall i'm not worried eaither way.

[Dipperly]

Interesting, well thanks for sharing your thoughts :)