T95 Problems.

[Commissar DOOM]

My fave tank is T95. Yes you heard it right. I love a slow moving stupid looking pillboxes slowly creeping it's way into enemy territory. But heres the issues. First. THE REPAIR COSTS OH MY ♥♥♥♥ING LORD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!? 22K OF REPAIR COSTS! ARE YOU ♥♥♥♥ING LOSING YOUR MIND GAIJIN!? Second. AT THIS BR THE VEHICLE FACES MOST OPPONENTS WITH ♥♥♥♥ING HEATFS. What does this means? it means that the vehicle would likely be destroyed almost instantly. With new swedish vehicles implemented... it has gone worse. Now my question is. I have brought T28. Same vehicle just without huge extra tracks and sitting at 6.3 with repair costs of 3.7k.... Why Gaijin? Explain this ♥♥♥♥. Now.

Or T95 should be lowered BR to 6.5 and reduce this ridiculous repair costs?

Update 1: I've just checked the highest repair costs vehicle previously held by Lorraine 40t: 19k costs. Now T95 took it's place WITH A WHOPPING 22K REPAIR COSTS.

[Commissar DOOM]

Origineel geplaatst door rigolgm:

Origineel geplaatst door Piggy:

7.0 is fine for the t95, and the t28 should be at 6.7, the side armour saves you more times than you think, they're literally the same tank, you're just adding extra tracks for weight distribution.

reduce repair cost, bring the t28 up to 6.7, keep t95 at 7.0 and leave the tank alone. its not used enough and is too slow to make a difference especially when your team steamrolls the enemy and doesnt get pushed back before the game ends.

No way is the T95 only 0.3br better than the T28. The side armour is vastly better and makes a big difference.

Not really from my point of view. It only increase protection to 155mm (which at that BR and that angle can be easily pen by anyone) and turning rates. That's really everything I can see as improvement from T28

[rigolgm]

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

Origineel geplaatst door rigolgm:

No way is the T95 only 0.3br better than the T28. The side armour is vastly better and makes a big difference.

Not really from my point of view. It only increase protection to 155mm (which at that BR and that angle can be easily pen by anyone) and turning rates. That's really everything I can see as improvement from T28

Have you run the T95? I have. It's proved incredibly durable to numerous side shots as long as they are angled (which they usually are). It's survived situations for minutes where a T28 would have died in seconds. It's a big difference. Confession. I've not driven the T28 as it's a premium. But it's side armour is paper by comparison.

[Arc]

T95 is a pos with no difference between T28 variant, the sidearmor does F all if you are not completely useless when playing against it (speaking as somebody who played against it more than with it).
The repair cost makes no sense at all, if you take out its gun, it is as good as dead like any other TD.

Balance never existed within WT ground Forces :3

[Haegler]

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

My fave tank is T95. Yes you heard it right. I love a slow moving stupid looking pillboxes slowly creeping it's way into enemy territory. But heres the issues. First. THE REPAIR COSTS OH MY ♥♥♥♥ING LORD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!? 22K OF REPAIR COSTS! ARE YOU ♥♥♥♥ING LOSING YOUR MIND GAIJIN!? Second. AT THIS BR THE VEHICLE FACES MOST OPPONENTS WITH ♥♥♥♥ING HEATFS. What does this means? it means that the vehicle would likely be destroyed almost instantly. With new swedish vehicles implemented... it has gone worse. Now my question is. I have brought T28. Same vehicle just without huge extra tracks and sitting at 6.3 with repair costs of 3.7k.... Why Gaijin? Explain this ♥♥♥♥. Now.

Or T95 should be lowered BR to 6.5 and reduce this ridiculous repair costs?

Update 1: I've just checked the highest repair costs vehicle previously held by Lorraine 40t: 19k costs. Now T95 took it's place WITH A WHOPPING 22K REPAIR COSTS.

Now I just want you to turn around very slowly and look at the Japanese tree.

Look very closely at the Ho-Ri Production.

Note the 7.0 BR.

Note the armour, which unlike the T95, cannot even bounce conventional shells.

Note the speed which is of course much higher.

Note the lack of a secondary.

Note the lacking penetration, its penetration drop-off at both range and angles because it is not using capped shells.

Now Note the roughly 20k-ish repair cost.

You are bloody well off with the T95, no ifs or buts.

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Origineel geplaatst door +rep Vollidiot:

Origineel geplaatst door dresden:

Everything you Wehraboos can't delete from the front with one round seems to be a problem for you. Try flanking like other nations have to maybe? Not to mention you can splash the crew by shooting cupola. Which cannot be said about Jadghandholder.

stop spreading bs, they fixed the cupolas you dumb donut.

what are you smoking? you can easily kill a crew member by shooting the cupola. if you take out the gun and driver the t95 is dead unless he has friendly support.

[Rogue Cloud]

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

Update 1: I've just checked the highest repair costs vehicle previously held by Lorraine 40t: 19k costs. Now T95 took it's place WITH A WHOPPING 22K REPAIR COSTS.

The lorraine actually has a slightly higher repair cost than the t95 at around 25.6k. I have both vehicles very close to being spaded and I just added up the additional repair cost of the modifications I haven't gotten yet.

[Commissar DOOM]

Origineel geplaatst door rigolgm:

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

Not really from my point of view. It only increase protection to 155mm (which at that BR and that angle can be easily pen by anyone) and turning rates. That's really everything I can see as improvement from T28

Have you run the T95? I have. It's proved incredibly durable to numerous side shots as long as they are angled (which they usually are). It's survived situations for minutes where a T28 would have died in seconds. It's a big difference. Confession. I've not driven the T28 as it's a premium. But it's side armour is paper by comparison.

I have researched all of it's mod on T95 and own T28. That's why I can tell you the differences. T95 can do side-angling while T28 can't. It doesn't add much of a diffrents. People tend to shoot it's tracks and gun and then that's it. It's as good as dead. That's why you always have to stay at mid-long range or go close range with friends backing you up.

Origineel geplaatst door Rogue Cloud:

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

Update 1: I've just checked the highest repair costs vehicle previously held by Lorraine 40t: 19k costs. Now T95 took it's place WITH A WHOPPING 22K REPAIR COSTS.

The lorraine actually has a slightly higher repair cost than the t95 at around 25.6k. I have both vehicles very close to being spaded and I just added up the additional repair cost of the modifications I haven't gotten yet.

Really? Last time I checked it's around 19,310 which is far lower than current T95 repair costs. I absolutely agreed that balancing with this kind of stuff is very bad.

Origineel geplaatst door Haegler:

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

My fave tank is T95. Yes you heard it right. I love a slow moving stupid looking pillboxes slowly creeping it's way into enemy territory. But heres the issues. First. THE REPAIR COSTS OH MY ♥♥♥♥ING LORD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!? 22K OF REPAIR COSTS! ARE YOU ♥♥♥♥ING LOSING YOUR MIND GAIJIN!? Second. AT THIS BR THE VEHICLE FACES MOST OPPONENTS WITH ♥♥♥♥ING HEATFS. What does this means? it means that the vehicle would likely be destroyed almost instantly. With new swedish vehicles implemented... it has gone worse. Now my question is. I have brought T28. Same vehicle just without huge extra tracks and sitting at 6.3 with repair costs of 3.7k.... Why Gaijin? Explain this ♥♥♥♥. Now.

Or T95 should be lowered BR to 6.5 and reduce this ridiculous repair costs?

Update 1: I've just checked the highest repair costs vehicle previously held by Lorraine 40t: 19k costs. Now T95 took it's place WITH A WHOPPING 22K REPAIR COSTS.

Now I just want you to turn around very slowly and look at the Japanese tree.

Look very closely at the Ho-Ri Production.

Note the 7.0 BR.

Note the armour, which unlike the T95, cannot even bounce conventional shells.

Note the speed which is of course much higher.

Note the lack of a secondary.

Note the lacking penetration, its penetration drop-off at both range and angles because it is not using capped shells.

Now Note the roughly 20k-ish repair cost.

You are bloody well off with the T95, no ifs or buts.

Fought this tank quite frequent. This tank can with stands load of shells as if you play it correctly. It excels at mid range sniping where you just only expose your gun and it also have good elevation too. I tend to switch to APCR round just to get through the turret. Annd ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I just saw the repair costs. What the ♥♥♥♥? But well off with T95? Nope. It's slow and sluggish. Yeah it can bounce shots quite well but most of the time it succumbs to HEATFS and APFSDS and bombs etc. People know it's weakness and tend to go around instead of facing it out front. Slow speed means that it will absolutely arrives at the battlefield at mid game. (You can brew your tea or coffee or make a vid of it.)

[Rogue Cloud]

Origineel geplaatst door Litzke:

Origineel geplaatst door Rogue Cloud:

The lorraine actually has a slightly higher repair cost than the t95 at around 25.6k. I have both vehicles very close to being spaded and I just added up the additional repair cost of the modifications I haven't gotten yet.

Really? Last time I checked it's around 19,310 which is far lower than current T95 repair costs. I absolutely agreed that balancing with this kind of stuff is very bad.

You are probably looking at the tank stock. If you unlock modifications, its repair cost will increase.

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Origineel geplaatst door Mirage:

Origineel geplaatst door dresden:

Everything you Wehraboos can't delete from the front with one round seems to be a problem for you. Try flanking like other nations have to maybe? Not to mention you can splash the crew by shooting cupola. Which cannot be said about Jadghandholder.

Yeah we'll flank in a Tiger ll or something.. we don't all have lolpen British or a ton of heatfs stuff on our sides with the M56, T92, T114.

Ru251 is good but rare enough, Jpz isnt great at flanking either being a TD intended for long range.

Cupola has long been nerfed so it's mostly immune frontally.

cupola can still take out crew members, take pot shots at the drivers cupola and after the 3rd hit you will kill the tank

[SwooshBear]

i dont want to hear any complaints for the doom turtles when y'all removed the maus for being too hard to kill

[-=GHS=-BoonDock™]

doom turtle is easy to kill even in a downtier

[Ouroboros]

It should really be at 6.7 like it used to be, especially now since the Jagdtiger is at 6.7 (as is the Tortoise). I know wehraboos will complain, but they will until the entire German tree is at 1.0. Especially since the T28 is a whole 0.7 lower for just less side armour, that's fine where it is, but the T95 should be 6.7.

[SwooshBear]

Origineel geplaatst door Charles VII de Valois:

It should really be at 6.7 like it used to be, especially now since the Jagdtiger is at 6.7 (as is the Tortoise). I know wehraboos will complain, but they will until the entire German tree is at 1.0. Especially since the T28 is a whole 0.7 lower for just less side armour, that's fine where it is, but the T95 should be 6.7.

It should be removed like the maus was, or you can give us the maus back and we can down br it some more

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Origineel geplaatst door PLeaSe HeLp:

Origineel geplaatst door Charles VII de Valois:

It should really be at 6.7 like it used to be, especially now since the Jagdtiger is at 6.7 (as is the Tortoise). I know wehraboos will complain, but they will until the entire German tree is at 1.0. Especially since the T28 is a whole 0.7 lower for just less side armour, that's fine where it is, but the T95 should be 6.7.

It should be removed like the maus was, or you can give us the maus back and we can down br it some more

two t28/95s existed and were tested, only 1.5 maus tanks existed and was never properly tested. the only thing the t95 has going for it is it armour, upteiring it so everything can pen it will literally make its only strength redundant, the maus should never have been removed, it was fine where it was, if tanks were smart they'd just flank it, it's easier to flank than the t95

[Ouroboros]

Origineel geplaatst door PLeaSe HeLp:

Origineel geplaatst door Charles VII de Valois:

It should really be at 6.7 like it used to be, especially now since the Jagdtiger is at 6.7 (as is the Tortoise). I know wehraboos will complain, but they will until the entire German tree is at 1.0. Especially since the T28 is a whole 0.7 lower for just less side armour, that's fine where it is, but the T95 should be 6.7.

It should be removed like the maus was, or you can give us the maus back and we can down br it some more

The Maus could maybe go to 7.3 but anything below that is lunacy. It's a difficult vehicle to balance. Also, the T95 isn't really that comparable to the Maus, it's more comparable to the Jagdtiger and Tortoise since none of them have a turret whereas the Maus does. Shall we remove those too?