Naval Forces still a utter mess?

[CoalBerner]

So I stopped playing WT and uninstalled it back in December when I finally realized how much of a mess Naval Forces is. It's a mode that can easily be interchanged with Air Battles because of how the entire second half of near every match is nothing but airplanes. It no longer was anything enjoyable when you couldn't actually play ships due to plane bombs already resulting in a one-shot kill on you or any other teammate.

This coupled with the fact that you couldn't even defend yourself from said planes and this allowed a single planes to wipe the floor with your entire team on their own if they wanted to. I stopped playing after this point.

So my questions is, has this even changed at all? I've seen almost nothing in regards to resolving this issue in the form of news from Gaijin. So I have a feeling they've done almost nothing with Naval Forces since I had put the game down.

[Wild colonial boy]

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

I correlate this to the inability to even use ships with how you can be spawn killed by a plane, instantly killed by one and you have minimal to no ability to shoot them down (manual or AI).

LMAO, I have played arcade NB three times in a row and never was killed by plane, but was able to shot dawn two planes in a row. It was with 2.0 ship in 3.7 battle.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

This is a tired old excuse. Because that's what it is, it's a excuse. It's a cop out and a attempt to either derail or disperse a conversation. It adds nothing and clearly shows that the person saying it has nothing to add to the conversation but still feels like they have to interject into it.

I have added to conversation by other statements.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

Did you know that the US has some of the best AA in the mid and late war? That Fletcher Destroyer had some impressive AA guns and crews?
You don't see that in WT now do you.

LOL, have you actually played on Fletcher or ever tried to bomb it? Fletcher does have it impressive AA in this game.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

There is a problem with planes in Naval Forces.

There are enough other problems with NF.

[CoalBerner]

Escrito originalmente por tfw no gf:

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

I correlate this to the inability to even use ships with how you can be spawn killed by a plane, instantly killed by one and you have minimal to no ability to shoot them down (manual or AI).

LMAO, I have played arcade NB three times in a row and never was killed by plane, but was able to shot dawn two planes in a row. It was with 2.0 ship in 3.7 battle.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

This is a tired old excuse. Because that's what it is, it's a excuse. It's a cop out and a attempt to either derail or disperse a conversation. It adds nothing and clearly shows that the person saying it has nothing to add to the conversation but still feels like they have to interject into it.

I have added to conversation by other statements.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

Did you know that the US has some of the best AA in the mid and late war? That Fletcher Destroyer had some impressive AA guns and crews?
You don't see that in WT now do you.

LOL, have you actually played on Fletcher or ever tried to bomb it? Fletcher does have it impressive AA in this game.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

There is a problem with planes in Naval Forces.

There are enough other problems with NF.

1:
This explains your lack of awareness of the actual state of Naval Forces. At least you admitted you lack knowledge based on experience. Come back when you've played several hundred battles across all ranks. Then I will have more of a reason to take your word as having weight and meaning.

2:
That fact that you defaulted to this statement removes any semblance of meaning to anything you said before. Since saying "It's history" makes you sound like a cop out who was just blowing hot air with what you previously said.

3:
Your statement about "I've only played NB 2-3 times" completely ruins this claim. You've only played 2-3 matches but you also say you know how Fletchers work? You've made yourself into looking like a complete liar. Good job.

4:
Ya, no kidding. I don't think anyone here has said that planes are the only problem. So what's your point? Since it comes across like you are trying to detract from planes being one of (and a major one at that) problem in Naval Forces in WT.

[Wild colonial boy]

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

This explains your lack of awareness of the actual state of Naval Forces. At least you admitted you lack knowledge based on experience. Come back when you've played several hundred battles across all ranks. Then I will have more of a reason to take your word as having weight and meaning.

Actually I've played NB a lot since the time before the CTB was released. I know what I'm talking about.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

That fact that you defaulted to this statement removes any semblance of meaning to anything you said before. Since saying "It's history" makes you sound like a cop out who was just blowing hot air with what you previously said.

Oh, if you said so...

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

Your statement about "I've only played NB 2-3 times" completely ruins this claim. You've only played 2-3 matches but you also say you know how Fletchers work? You've made yourself into looking like a complete liar. Good job.

You are rеtаrdеd. I've never said that I played NB ONLY 2-3 matches.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

So what's your point? Since it comes across like you are trying to detract from planes being one of (and a major one at that) problem in Naval Forces in WT.

My point that planes aren't a major problem. There are serious issues overall.

[B.D.Godde]

Escrito originalmente por tfw no gf:

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

This explains your lack of awareness of the actual state of Naval Forces. At least you admitted you lack knowledge based on experience. Come back when you've played several hundred battles across all ranks. Then I will have more of a reason to take your word as having weight and meaning.

Actually I've played NB a lot since the time before the CTB was released. I know what I'm talking about.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

That fact that you defaulted to this statement removes any semblance of meaning to anything you said before. Since saying "It's history" makes you sound like a cop out who was just blowing hot air with what you previously said.

Oh, if you said so...

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

Your statement about "I've only played NB 2-3 times" completely ruins this claim. You've only played 2-3 matches but you also say you know how Fletchers work? You've made yourself into looking like a complete liar. Good job.

You are rеtаrdеd. I've never said that I played NB ONLY 2-3 matches.

Escrito originalmente por Daragoth:

So what's your point? Since it comes across like you are trying to detract from planes being one of (and a major one at that) problem in Naval Forces in WT.

My point that planes aren't a major problem. There are serious issues overall.

yes there are serious issues. But this one is just as serious, only it's easier to see.
I have no issue with you or your skill. I am not trying to call you out as some kind of bad player. I can clearly see you have more experience than me. This said, personal experience/ anecdotes do not make the success or performance of planes significantly better or worse.
Just because you have never had trouble from aircraft doesn't mean they are OP.

[Wild colonial boy]

Escrito originalmente por theGoddes:

yes there are serious issues. But this one is just as serious, only it's easier to see.
I have no issue with you or your skill. I am not trying to call you out as some kind of bad player. I can clearly see you have more experience than me. This said, personal experience/ anecdotes do not make the success or performance of planes significantly better or worse.
Just because you have never had trouble from aircraft doesn't mean they are OP.

I had troubles from aircrafts. On first and third rank. But I don't think that they are OP. The issue, as I think, is the free plane spawns which are encouraging kamikaze spam.