Should I bother with the Tiger II P?

[AC137]

Because 100 mm of turret armor at 6.3 makes me feel unsafe af

[The Wiggly Armed Man]

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

Escrito originalmente por The Wiggly Armed Man:

Wouldn't the T29/30 be better equipped since it's better than the Tiger II.

Lol I see where you are going with this one. T29 is better than King Tiger at their BR. King Tiger has a worst chance at killing a t29 then a t29 killing a King Tiger. Doesn't mean the King Tigers gun isn't better. King Tigers armor doesn't help it ever. It's gun is its saving point.

The front armour of the King Tiger is basically impossible to penetrate without HEAT-FS and the turret is still pretty good. I regularly see King Tigers get 4+ kills in battles so I really doubt that the tanks are as poor as you try to make them seem.

[Ragnarok]

Escrito originalmente por The Wiggly Armed Man:

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

Lol I see where you are going with this one. T29 is better than King Tiger at their BR. King Tiger has a worst chance at killing a t29 then a t29 killing a King Tiger. Doesn't mean the King Tigers gun isn't better. King Tigers armor doesn't help it ever. It's gun is its saving point.

The front armour of the King Tiger is basically impossible to penetrate without HEAT-FS and the turret is still pretty good. I regularly see King Tigers get 4+ kills in battles so I really doubt that the tanks are as poor as you try to make them seem.

I have no issue penning the turret with my 122 mm gun using 207mm penetration. t29's will have even less of a problem. If you pen the turret of a King Tiger, its a detonation. Instantly. Only way to one shot a T29 and the like is shoot the LFP where all the ammo is stored.

[The Wiggly Armed Man]

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

Escrito originalmente por The Wiggly Armed Man:

The front armour of the King Tiger is basically impossible to penetrate without HEAT-FS and the turret is still pretty good. I regularly see King Tigers get 4+ kills in battles so I really doubt that the tanks are as poor as you try to make them seem.

I have no issue penning the turret with my 122 mm gun using 207mm penetration. t29's will have even less of a problem. If you pen the turret of a King Tiger, its a detonation. Instantly. Only way to one shot a T29 and the like is shoot the LFP where all the ammo is stored.

The T29 has thinner turret armour than the Tiger II (H). I also rarely get an ammo rack from penetrating the front of a King Tiger's turret, though I have only been using ST-A1 and ST-A2 of late.

[Ragnarok]

Escrito originalmente por The Wiggly Armed Man:

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

I have no issue penning the turret with my 122 mm gun using 207mm penetration. t29's will have even less of a problem. If you pen the turret of a King Tiger, its a detonation. Instantly. Only way to one shot a T29 and the like is shoot the LFP where all the ammo is stored.

The T29 has thinner turret armour than the Tiger II (H). I also rarely get an ammo rack from penetrating the front of a King Tiger's turret, though I have only been using ST-A1 and ST-A2 of late.

I will say that firing heat at the turret lately of a king tiger has frustrated me. Using my 7.3 TD, the SU-122-54, firing two seperate heat shells at a King Tiger. First one smacks the turret, penetrates, but does nothing. I stared at my screen in a blank. I have 400MM of penetration. Firing another round into the other side of the turret. Same thing.

Again, I stared at the screen in confusion. So I mean, ive had my moments. I dont know what the ST-A1 fires but to be fair, the Russian and German rounds have some nice explosive power behind them and I usually one shot in my Russians. Germany is a little worse in terms of that damage but still good.

[kamikazi21358]

Escrito originalmente por The Wiggly Armed Man:

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

I have no issue penning the turret with my 122 mm gun using 207mm penetration. t29's will have even less of a problem. If you pen the turret of a King Tiger, its a detonation. Instantly. Only way to one shot a T29 and the like is shoot the LFP where all the ammo is stored.

The T29 has thinner turret armour than the Tiger II (H). I also rarely get an ammo rack from penetrating the front of a King Tiger's turret, though I have only been using ST-A1 and ST-A2 of late.

The T29 has a thicker turret. The Tiger II (H) has 185mm of RHA, while the T29 has 203mm of CHA, effective 196-198mm of RHA against full caliber KEP munitions. The T29 is essentially immune to the Panther series and Tiger I series frontally when hull down, until either tank loads APCR, which I have found capable against the T29/30/34 series’ turret.

[The Wiggly Armed Man]

Escrito originalmente por kamikazi21358:

Escrito originalmente por The Wiggly Armed Man:

The T29 has thinner turret armour than the Tiger II (H). I also rarely get an ammo rack from penetrating the front of a King Tiger's turret, though I have only been using ST-A1 and ST-A2 of late.

The T29 has a thicker turret. The Tiger II (H) has 185mm of RHA, while the T29 has 203mm of CHA, effective 196-198mm of RHA against full caliber KEP munitions. The T29 is essentially immune to the Panther series and Tiger I series frontally when hull down, until either tank loads APCR, which I have found capable against the T29/30/34 series’ turret.

I was looking at the wrong statistics.

[kamikazi21358]

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

I will say that firing heat at the turret lately of a king tiger has frustrated me. Using my 7.3 TD, the SU-122-54, firing two seperate heat shells at a King Tiger. First one smacks the turret, penetrates, but does nothing. I stared at my screen in a blank. I have 400MM of penetration. Firing another round into the other side of the turret. Same thing.

First, I must say, I applaud your brave and patient soul for actually spading the SU-122-54.

Second, you were probably just Gaijin’d.

Third, with HEAT-FS, it is probably better to just aim for the upper part of the UFP.

[Ragnarok]

Escrito originalmente por kamikazi21358:

Escrito originalmente por Barneys Had Enough Of You.:

I will say that firing heat at the turret lately of a king tiger has frustrated me. Using my 7.3 TD, the SU-122-54, firing two seperate heat shells at a King Tiger. First one smacks the turret, penetrates, but does nothing. I stared at my screen in a blank. I have 400MM of penetration. Firing another round into the other side of the turret. Same thing.

First, I must say, I applaud your brave and patient soul for actually spading the SU-122-54.

Second, you were probably just Gaijin’d.

Third, with HEAT-FS, it is probably better to just aim for the upper part of the UFP.

I like to aim for the weakspots that I know that will usually detonate or crew a tank.

As for my patience? Eh. Thanks I guess. I use gold to get what I need to get in a tank. Usually just get the Parts and FPE then work on the rest.

Im kind of disappointed in myself for even getting it. I wont be going to top tier Russia any time soon. Im going to go top tier british since I have my AVRE now.... whch by the way, is very soothing especally when ran with its counterpart, the Death Star.

[Leo "Gamer" G]

Escrito originalmente por trevorkrause:

Escrito originalmente por Leo G:

So you have 2 accounts then? Because the one I'm looking at only has British vehicles

Obviously not.

You either have 2 accounts or you are lying. The account that I know is yours only has British vehicles on it

[kamikazi21358]

Escrito originalmente por Leo G:

Escrito originalmente por trevorkrause:

Obviously not.

You either have 2 accounts or you are lying. The account that I know is yours only has British vehicles on it

He does have 2 accounts.

[Leo "Gamer" G]

Escrito originalmente por kamikazi21358:

Escrito originalmente por Leo G:

You either have 2 accounts or you are lying. The account that I know is yours only has British vehicles on it

He does have 2 accounts.

Oh ok right, wonder why he denied it.

[kamikazi21358]

Escrito originalmente por Leo G:

Escrito originalmente por kamikazi21358:

He does have 2 accounts.

Oh ok right, wonder why he denied it.

he has like ‘britishkrause’ and like ‘germankrause’ or something like that, with the relative country.

[Leo "Gamer" G]

Escrito originalmente por kamikazi21358:

Escrito originalmente por Leo G:

Oh ok right, wonder why he denied it.

he has like ‘britishkrause’ and like ‘germankrause’ or something like that, with the relative country.

Yeah the one I knew about was obviously britishkrause, wasn't aware of others though. Seems odd to deny it, and it's generally weird to make different accounts for different nations.

Just checked, seems he has 3: britishkrause, germankrause, and russiankrause

[Newtz]

I'd say yes bc it can stomp if played correctly

[Damian030303]

Wiggle your turret and most shells will bounce, same with Tiger II H