incoming changes to APDSFS

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

spreadsheet showing the changes.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTdPVAFQuSz5Z_u5X_bcjxzab4oLT35oJDj0j-YjkspYRzIR8j49QJzeFsksjG1IgCoz6iYvYm5xhj-/pubhtml?gid=2087102741&single=true
the link is from the recent Q&A on balistics update
https://warthunder.com/en/news/6023-qa-ballistic-update-questions-and-answers-from-the-developers-en
incase you missed it.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Hey look, british APFSDS gets a buff.








Like if anyone cares lol

[saymyname]

Escrito originalmente por NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

Escrito originalmente por SAY_MY_NAME:

No, it gets a nerf all around but at very extreme angles.
At 30 degrees angles (so basically most shots) is already a downgrade.

You innocent creature fell in Gaijobles smokescreen trap, not the only one tho.

i dont know, i think the buff agaisnt angles is gonna work well for it.

How much times you fire at 60 degrees slopes ?

[Kay]

Escrito originalmente por SAY_MY_NAME:

Escrito originalmente por NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

i dont know, i think the buff agaisnt angles is gonna work well for it.

How much times you fire at 60 degrees slopes ?

At 10.0?

All the time. The T-64/72/80 UFP is at 60 degrees, the internal armour on the Abrams (both models, and everywhere on them) is at 60 degrees (bar the monolithic blocks), even the T-62M1 UFP is at 60 degrees

[Narf]

Escrito originalmente por Ki'agh:

Escrito originalmente por SAY_MY_NAME:

How much times you fire at 60 degrees slopes ?

At 10.0?

All the time. The T-64/72/80 UFP is at 60 degrees, the internal armour on the Abrams (both models, and everywhere on them) is at 60 degrees (bar the monolithic blocks), even the T-62M1 UFP is at 60 degrees

Nobody cares about the ruskies though. They were easy kills even with the shell performance it had before. The challenging opponents are Abrams, Leos and Type 90s - and all of those a boxy, nearly unangled. And they are going to be a major pain to penetrate anywhere but the artificially weakened gun mantle now.

[Kay]

Escrito originalmente por Narf:

Escrito originalmente por Ki'agh:

At 10.0?

All the time. The T-64/72/80 UFP is at 60 degrees, the internal armour on the Abrams (both models, and everywhere on them) is at 60 degrees (bar the monolithic blocks), even the T-62M1 UFP is at 60 degrees

Nobody cares about the ruskies though. They were easy kills even with the shell performance it had before. The challenging opponents are Abrams, Leos and Type 90s - and all of those a boxy, nearly unangled. And they are going to be a major pain to penetrate anywhere but the artificially weakened gun mantle now.

UFP and LFP of all of those is highly angled, especially the internal armour.

All of the NERA on the Abrams is at ~60 degrees.

The only things that aren't highly angled are the turret faces of the 2A4, Type-90 and T-series, which were impenetrable anyway.

The changes could make the T-64B UFP a lot less effective, so people won't have to aim for the driver's area anymore

[Azi]

Escrito originalmente por Ki'agh:

The changes could make the T-64B UFP a lot less effective, so people won't have to aim for the driver's area anymore

Is it even effective in the first place? I remember just shooting HEAT at non-ERA T-64B and just going trough ez... Idk about APFSDS as I rarely use it on the L44...

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Have to prepare myself to quit this game for good...
Another attempt to save russian mbt junk.

[kamikazi21358]

My... my 3BM4... D;

[Kozi]

Escrito originalmente por =VNPA= novastorm//pt\\:

Have to prepare myself to quit this game for good...
Another attempt to save russian mbt junk.

Please do it, you’ll make everyone a favour.

[p0mpous]

Escrito originalmente por NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

spreadsheet showing the changes.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTdPVAFQuSz5Z_u5X_bcjxzab4oLT35oJDj0j-YjkspYRzIR8j49QJzeFsksjG1IgCoz6iYvYm5xhj-/pubhtml?gid=2087102741&single=true
the link is from the recent Q&A on balistics update
https://warthunder.com/en/news/6023-qa-ballistic-update-questions-and-answers-from-the-developers-en
incase you missed it.

Are they changing any of the russian 125mm shells like 3BM22.

Great the CR get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ even more, even less pen.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

Escrito originalmente por Sir Det Mist:

Escrito originalmente por NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

spreadsheet showing the changes.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTdPVAFQuSz5Z_u5X_bcjxzab4oLT35oJDj0j-YjkspYRzIR8j49QJzeFsksjG1IgCoz6iYvYm5xhj-/pubhtml?gid=2087102741&single=true
the link is from the recent Q&A on balistics update
https://warthunder.com/en/news/6023-qa-ballistic-update-questions-and-answers-from-the-developers-en
incase you missed it.

Are they changing any of the russian 125mm shells like 3BM22.

i have no idea if they plan to, so far this is all ive seen.

[Peregrine]

I hope they drop the price for the M774 now.

[SPQR XC]

Escrito originalmente por Franss the Coffee Addict:

Hey look, british APFSDS gets a buff.








Like if anyone cares lol

Nope, it's also getting a nerf. Challenger has to be the worst top tier MBT, comrades!

[Kay]

Escrito originalmente por Azarias:

Escrito originalmente por Ki'agh:

The changes could make the T-64B UFP a lot less effective, so people won't have to aim for the driver's area anymore

Is it even effective in the first place? I remember just shooting HEAT at non-ERA T-64B and just going trough ez... Idk about APFSDS as I rarely use it on the L44...

You answered your own question.

With ERA it's almost immune to every HEAT round/ATGM, only really vulnerable to two APFSDS rounds, the Rhienmetal 120 firing DM23, or JM33

[Azi]

Escrito originalmente por Ki'agh:

Escrito originalmente por Azarias:

Is it even effective in the first place? I remember just shooting HEAT at non-ERA T-64B and just going trough ez... Idk about APFSDS as I rarely use it on the L44...

You answered your own question.

With ERA it's almost immune to every HEAT round/ATGM, only really vulnerable to two APFSDS rounds, the Rhienmetal 120 firing DM23, or JM33

This said, with HEATFS you just shoot the gun mantlet, ez...