M3/M3A1 versus M5A1

[isomorphic_projection]

The M3/M3A1 is a rank 1 tank. The M5A1 is a rank 2 tank. The M3 can turn a T-34 into scrap metal with 2 well aimed shots. The M5A1, can't even put a dent into a rank 1 tank. Either the USA army lost there minds when they builded it. Or it's way of balance.

[kamikazi21358]

You must be using stock ammunition? Because I apsolutely love the M5A1, and from my recollection, it has the M6 37mm instead of the M5(?), and is marginally better.

Meanwhile, it has smarter armour, and a higher top speed.

[isomorphic_projection]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

You must be using stock ammunition? Because I apsolutely love the M5A1, and from my recollection, it has the M6 37mm instead of the M5(?), and is marginally better.

Meanwhile, it has smarter armour, and a higher top speed.

I used the M51B1/B2 ammo, 7 lions a pop.

[AttackerCat]

I love my M5A1s. The M5s and the M3A1s have the same exact gun (the M6 37mm) which is marginally better than the M2A4 and the M3 Light tank which has the M5 cannon.

Use speed, rely on the relatively bouncy nature of the mantlet/turret front, and you'll do all right.

[isomorphic_projection]

Originally posted by AttackerCat:

I love my M5A1s. The M5s and the M3A1s have the same exact gun (the M6 37mm) which is marginally better than the M2A4 and the M3 Light tank which has the M5 cannon.

Use speed, rely on the relatively bouncy nature of the mantlet/turret front, and you'll do all right.

Not really, i just quit with the US tree. Going on with Germany. Doesn't matter which shell i use. I'm still shooting blanks. Just now 5 direct hits at a PzIII E, nothing. He fires a single shell and i'm gone.

[Stubbz]

This sounds like a L2P issue

[Kikusaku]

the m5 is a uparmored m3...the gun and ammo are the same. you will have to learn how to shoot tanks with it. (its one of the best cannons at this level)

[isomorphic_projection]

Originally posted by Stubbz:

This sounds like a L2P issue

Nope it isn't, i know how to play. And where to aim.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by isomorphic_projection:

Originally posted by Stubbz:

This sounds like a L2P issue

Nope it isn't, i know how to play. And where to aim.

Well considering how some of us absolutely love the M5A1, perhaps it’s just not your style.

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Originally posted by isomorphic_projection:

Originally posted by Stubbz:

This sounds like a L2P issue

Nope it isn't, i know how to play. And where to aim.

The guns/ammo are the same, which means that really the only things it's going to struggle with are things it cant physically penetrate.

At such a low tier, those tanks are going to be fairly uncommon... My guess is you're either just having a string of bad games with the M5 and are associating it as a bad tank... Or you're trying to play with bad ping and the server registers the hit elsewhere than you thought you were aiming, or despite knowing where to aim made a few shots that were off by a slim margin that was just enough to cause them to bounce.

Net result: M3 is a champ, M5 can go throw itself off a pier.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg Wulf:

Net result: M3 is a champ, M5 can go throw itself off a pier.

But I like the M5A1 ;(

[isomorphic_projection]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg Wulf:

Net result: M3 is a champ, M5 can go throw itself off a pier.

But I like the M5A1 ;(

I don't, the M3 is indeed a champ compared to the M5. And my ping hasn't bin higher then 20 the last 3 years. Doesn't matter which game i play.

[Silent]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg Wulf:

Net result: M3 is a champ, M5 can go throw itself off a pier.

But I like the M5A1 ;(

Don't worry, he was saying that the OP probably has a bad opinion of it because of a string of bad games. It's a great tank.

OP Pz IIIs have APHE shells, the U.S. tree doesn't get those until br 2.7 with the M3 Lee. These shells are able to reliably one shot vehicles at that tier because they have explosive filler.

[Stridswombat]

The M5 has the exact same gun as the M3a1. It's also the best 37mm in the game in regards to penetration. If you can't make that work it's on you.

[isomorphic_projection]

I rest my case, all tanks are crap. If your put up 9 out of 10 times against a team with tanks outranking you. Doesn't matter how you tier up. But putting money into the game is no option. I did and i have a feeling they smelled the cash. Since then tiering up has become a lot harder. So i took my M5A1, guess what 10 games not 1 game my tank made it to the end. All 10 games red had tanks atleast 0.5 BR higher then me.

[Stridswombat]

You don't have a case. You were wrong. Flat out.